Anyone think this game would benefit from fixed pacts and agreements like RTS and TBS games where you cannot break them... such as ceasefire terms where it will say "You cannot attack this person because of a pact your tribe has made, although we know you all play without any sense of decency and want to pinch someone from the enemy council and use their information to run an op because of how desperate you are for still falling behind in the war stats when everything about TW would say that you shouldn't be"?
Terms that have to be obliged would be great. I'd say maybe they could be broken by PP but tribes like HQ would be all over that because of all the money they save from now going out goes straight to PP.
Would seem like a really good addition to have fixed termed alliances, NAPs and ceasefires as an optional agreement. especially since TW took everything else away like supporting other tribes and the ability to send any size fakes whilst adding in watch towers .
Ceasefire breaking rules are needed. Exhibit A:
Anzel May 20, 12:10
I'm trying to get times from him but GS apparently attacked [player]zchesney[/player] all night last night
Don Chase May 20, 12:12
pre-existing attacks that were already sent were excluded rememebr, and im sure that was the case, but yeah if you can get me reports and times that'd help
Don Chase May 20, 12:13
to clarify also, 24hr ceasefire was in place from:
Also, according to TW stats he switched at this time which doesn't seem right to me I'm sure it was earlier
19th May 2018 - 20:07:40
Don Chase May 20, 12:25
yeah our internal overview time was :
May 19
19:03
so we'll work from that time, so able to land attacks after 20th May : 19:03,
sound good?
Don Chase May 20, 12:26
also speaking to gs now, if it did happen it really freaking shouldnt have and im pissed, will have been a mistake as they're in council, but im sure it wouldnt, we'll sort some res out as compensation if anything did happen.
Co-Play is The Way! (568|451) Nobleman 02:13:17 2018-05-20 19:40:02
He nobled this villa and launched 37 minutes after the ceasefire started.
Anzel May 20, 13:10
The forums are rife with talks of spoon night scouting as well. There's loads of them
Don Chase May 20, 13:14
the time you stated on that first one doesnt make sense, if you look at the report it clearly states: 'Sent: May 19, 2018 21:53:19'
so the report was sent before the attack landed with the time you quoted?
also the bottom attack at 19:40 that you stated, is later than jack joined! and i can apologise for that, but in the initial terms we stated we did say we'd go by TWstats time, even if that was incorrect.
so while it was a violation in real terms, it wasnt a violation in agreement terms, so i think tbh that we kind of have to just ignore/wipe that one off? as it's in such a grey area, like it doesnt break the terms in some sense? so yeah :/
but the zchesney villa i believe was cleared prior to the ceasefire, so i can get the idea of continuing on with the attacks, it would be non-sensical to not continue surely?
and also just checked up on spoons,apparently everyone was annoyed at him last night when they saw, he didnt read the forum post apparently >.<
so i can defo agree on some res transfer for that, what would your request be and to which villa?
~Alex
i can only apologise and know that these are mistakes, legit
Don Chase May 20, 13:16
spoons case was a co player not reading the forums i've jsut found out >.<
Anzel May 20, 13:25
There isn't a report sent from the first one. The report I spoilered in is just related to the 19:40 launch.
Regarding the time, at 12:25 today, you wrote
Don Chase May 20, 12:25
yeah our internal overview time was :
May 19
19:03
so we'll work from that time, so able to land attacks after 20th May : 19:03,
sound good?
Which was in response to me saying TWstats time doesn't look right.
There were no talks in the ceasefire saying we could send back if it was cleared. Arguably, we could have gotten support there just as easy as a send back was sent. You have to agree that that one is a clear violation and in reality should be given back to him. A ceasefire is to cease all fire. Any further terms should be stipulated prior to the agreement.
I accept spoons being an error and not much is lost there bar people having eyes on troop numbers. I think zchesney should have a further 12 hour ceasefire because of the scout reports.
I'm waiting to hear back but it looks as if [player]Ironage[/player] was being sent at all night as well.
Don Chase May 20, 13:31
for sure, but i presumed that there were no attacks conflicting with this, and the time we originally stated was from twstats time, so the 'agreement/contract' / whatever you wanna call it was stating with twstats time, so as i said, its a grey area and i think tbh its one we kinda just have to let slide, tho it looks bad, but hey ho.
so while it does kinda break the ceasefire, it also kinda doesnt? so yeah its a grey area, and i dont think i can agree to that tho i totally get your side of the argument! its just technically not wrong, tho it was wrong? if you get me.
i can agree a ceasefire until midnight, so an additonal 5 hours with zchesney, as it was about 5 hours of violation time, if that makes sense?
but yeah sorry agoin about the scoutings, its just stupid and annoyed me >.< but people make mistakes eh?
Don Chase May 20, 13:36
an extra 5 hours ceasefire (until midnight ST) for [player]zchesney[/player] has been agreed and will be respected by all
Anzel May 20, 13:45
Hmmm. The goal posts seems to have moved on the lost villa one. We said TW stats, I came to you saying they looked odd and you said 19:03 until I shown a report that violated it.. casing you to revert to the TWstats one.
There's the first unpublished report I spoke about:
Don Chase May 20, 13:51
all im saying is our players knew the terms were from tw stats time, so they have plausible deniability i guess :/
Don Chase May 20, 13:52
its just such a grey area, but they have all apologised
Anzel May 20, 13:55
How can there be plausible deniability. When the 19:40 launch went ahead, the twstats wouldn't have yet updated with the correct time.
They'd have known that JL was de facto in the tribe.
It doesn't look good when one council player turns coat and then they dishonour an agreement they put forward.
We can agree on the res transferring situation and the scouting situation but there have been villa takes that violate it.
Don Chase May 20, 14:00
because that's the terms we agreed on and there's co's who come on and just play and dont check the forum as much, just one of the things eh?
it could have been a hell of alot worse lets remember that, its a proposal that's still being honored, just with a couple mistakes by co's.
Anzel May 20, 14:02
When I used to co, we left notes in the main villa. It wouldn't have been difficult to communicate this.
I see this as being dishonoured.
Don Chase May 20, 14:21
people do things their own way eh?
i'm trying to resolve this... it was an accident... so what do you propose to do so...
Anzel May 20, 15:53
I know you won't budge on the villa element so let's talks res. Also, wardy has just launched on me. Who is supposed to be in charge over there?
Don Chase May 20, 16:01
do the attacks from wardy land after 19:03
We should probably also look at banning player nobling, its just too violent, reducing player interaction to only exchanging pleasantries seems the way to go
We should probably also look at banning player nobling, its just too violent, reducing player interaction to only exchanging pleasantries seems the way to go
Cool idea I suppose there should be worlds with settings like these and some without, mixing it up more and including a larger variety of settings would be fun
I have to agree! Contracts, what a way to liven up a game and keep it fun!
Anzel, you my friend are an innovator! i can see all the joy of implementing this function into the game can bring
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Personally I don’t think being tied down to virtual contract on a game which is essentially a full time hobby would add any fun to the game just another stress barrier and not allowing the option to change your mind.
But on the other hand an actual function to add terms to diplomacy in game which actually blocked you from attacking when a CF been negotiated for example.
I would welcome that.. mean that words actually mean something and something agreed upon can’t be ripped apart in an instance.
Mind you be awkward when gifting villas etc back so..
Anzel logic... *Lets all point and suggest the only player who was well known for being good prior to all this new crap is only good because of new features!*
I have to agree! Contracts, what a way to liven up a game and keep it fun!
Anzel, you my friend are an innovator! i can see all the joy of implementing this function into the game can bring
#Anzelforcommunitymanager
yeah that's what i did for sure, just deleted and let you guys noble pff i didn't the crap beaten out of me in one op, i deleted for you guys to take me
Side 1:
Tribes: -HQ- Side 2:
Tribes: -13-, _13_, EXN Timeframe: 20/05/2018 00:00:00 to 14/06/2018 23:37:32 Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 361 Side 2: 40 Difference: 321
Points value of total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 2,977,929 Side 2: 356,515 Difference: 2,621,414
