The irony is, whoever gets those "1sts" tend to be better players. You pitch Nauzhror against yourself within each other's 15x15, I'm almost certain he would noble you in the long-run, unless you went completely D-strat, but then you would be outgrown by him cause HC is less efficient than LC.
Perhaps those "1sts" show the quicker startup players? Better farmers? Lucky in their startup location? (we've all read the conspiracy threads regarding some players "luck" being surrounded by barbs on day 1) more time to play the game? Better scripts, or in your case better bot??
I'm not the greatest startup player myself, but then I haven't quit every world and restarted over and over again on others to get the practice in..
Mike, in KnK being in Nauz 15x15 would not be necessarily removed, due to his tribal support, the same would go for any of our members who were putting in the time and effort.. we are talking about tribes here right? Just there seems to be a lot of solo Ego talk.. yet again..
But sticking to the end of the world is pretty sad... I mean, it just shows someone have nothing better to do with their life then just come home from work/school/whatever and just sit at their computer and waste time playing TW obsessively, mass-recruit, oh look, throw a few nukes there, fart a bit, knock themselves out at 2am, wake up the following morning, log in and see whether they have incoming, no, leave for work, rinse and repeat...
Well, that sums up the game as a whole really, its time based, real time, and time consuming, we all know that. I could argue that more time is required playing at startup than later game allowing players who do stay till the end more time for real life, those that keep starting new worlds are more sad perhaps?
You missed out farming in your list, that takes more time than anything to start with.
It's not skill. It's just repetitive. To highlight, I am easily skilled enough to be rank 1 at late-game, but not so at start-up? Why? Two possible reasons : Maybe my farming methods are flawed. I doubt this, but who knows? 2. I'm not willing to commit so much time to TW to be THAT good.
I agree, it is repetition, at startup more so than late game. Of course there is a certain amount of skill, albeit simplified with scripts, and most of that is down to timing.
As a tribe, and looking at the bigger picture comes more skill however, you need to make predictions, educated guesses if you like, play your own account as well as help others so that they too can learn if need be, but enjoy the game at the same time.
How are you easily skilled enough to be rank 1 in late game? If your not one of the "1sts" in the startup, your doomed right?
Your farming methods may be flawed, or the algorithms of your Bot, but you never spent the time legit players did. We know you were not willing through your own admissions.
At late-game, even if I log on in my current inactive state, I can maintain a rank 1.
Just you? Or anyone? Are we talking about a world your currently playing, or any world with any other tribes playing that world?
At startup, there would be no chance in hell of doing so. Because there are so many better players, faster growers, more aggressive attackers, and better farmers. Period.
Stating the obvious, and confirming what I said earlier, those that repeat play startup, play more than those that stick it out to the end and do in fact have lives.
I don't know why people choose to glorify in the sad venture of lasting to the end of a world.
Really? Its all about world domination, not possible if you run away after a couple of months
It's not about winning... it's about having fun.
Thats right, "its not the winning, its the taking part". LOL no its not, its about winning, which makes it more fun than losing, as is every game played, computer games, console games, football games, athletics, I wont go on.
Considering how one of my coplayers on Uk10 was a ex-TuToR newb who was coplaying me and matching Nauzhror for a brief period of time on haulage per day, I think you'll find your summary of TuToR is woefully inadequate. And ofc it was full of incompetence... we recruited noobs who wanted to learn, didn't we? And now they are no longer noobs. Sure, some are still lacking... but they are better than before, and we've certainly added a few more skilled players to the mix. Please don't try and compare your sorry selves with a teaching tribe. Man, I would feel disgraced that my own tribe (KnK) was unable to outgrow the rank 1 TuToR despite the copious amounts of incompetence we are claimed to harbour in our ranks.
Says a lot about your tribe.
But we have always took in players without knowledge of the game, helped them learn the basics as we did, and play the game at the same time, without telling the world so we can hide behind the fact when we start losing, you were not a teaching tribe, you wanted your egos massaged, and that worked wonders for you.
From the very early days of world 7, KnK were rank 1 ODA, fact, and we have stayed there, so whilst you were hugging, and "teaching" this game that "requires no skill" thus requires no teaching, we were removing tribes around us. I wouldn't compare our tribe to one that teaches "no skill", there is no comparison.
Anyone can mass recruit...
As KnK have clearly demonstrated on UK7.
Yes, with our seriously low ODA ODD from day 1 and high member count that we always had...?
Lol, I seem to recall when me, Nauz, Abdo, Temporary and a few others quit, we were still rank 1, and therefore ahead of you. Thus, you are wrong.
No, we did catch you up in points, we were already ahead of you with OD stats, we had a better foundation on the map, we were looking solid compared to yourselves, we knew it, you knew it.
You're definition of an elite player needs modification. Players should be measured on their skill, not on how long they last in a world. Only noobs value longevity on this sad game.
So, a 1 on 1 match as you have mentioned a couple of times.. The player who leaves first is the better player? Or the one who lasts?
Your whole definition on the winning of this game needs modification..
Feel free to look here
http://forum.tribalwars.co.uk/showthread.php?t=15522
In the player stats, there are KnK players at the top from a very early stage, but we're talking tribes right?
Look at the tribe stats..
The only stats that show TuToR at the top involve points.. anything related to OD and we were ahead of you.. We must have mass recruited those OD stats whilst you were point whoring.