Extended Christmas Ceasefire

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Daluicis said:
The situation with Amaze - Falcon has been dealt with by the leaders of Amaze and TC. And that's it. A third party that has nothing to do with it and is barely aware of the situation and what was going on should simply keep out of it.

And now I read the situation with Justinescrapper was no bad intend at all, just crossnobeling. Even here it has nothing do to with you or A.F.A.

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Can I please put a general request that all possible situations are reported to your leaders/council, who then contact the leaders/council of the opposing tribe instead of first signs of something is wrong posting in here, which leads to nothing constructive at all? It's just sane logic to do so instead of complaining on here. Certainly not on matters that not involve you or the tribe you're in.

The externals are not the place where solutions are gonna happen after all.

Thank you.
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Very true. I shouldn't have posted anything about the JustineScrapper take, especially without looking into it more.

However it is interesting to speculate over this Falcon situation. Because so far from what I've seen it hasn't been dealt with too great.
Would be nice to hear an update.
 

DeletedUser

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Mistakes happen. Maybe somebody got carried away and ignored the ceasefire with more than fakes or maybe not. This isn't entirely clear.
It will be easier to sort out though if the respective Dukes are left to it and others do not add fuel to the fire.
This is a time for tolerance, understanding and goodwill. Let's just enjoy the holiday and come back refreshed and ready for the fray in the new year.
 

DeletedUser

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Fakes were sent to land in window. This had happened with a few people on numerous sides.

I can see by some mails it was explained to a few people only fakes after midnight. So all those attacks were not real, just to try and hide nobles landing minutes before ceasefire.

Falconhoof lost 3 villages during this. No support was sent to try and hide the nobles, plus there was no time to recap.

4 nukes and 3 nobles with full escorts later, re capping one of these villages nothing has been done.

I was defender of the day at lunchtime during a ceasefire.

So because fakes were sent after midnight, TC's leadership states nukes/nobles were fair game in retaliation.

I would like to add, not a single genuine attack was sent after midnight. Amaze leadership knew this throughout.

So nothing is now being done about it, been told if he took second I MIGHT have been allowed it back. So i cant take it back and TC wont give it back. TC's rules to alter how they wish I guess.

Resources for any losses too. Look at my ODD. Im still waiting.........
 

DeletedUser5851

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Maybe you should take that up with your Duke instead of whining about it on here?

After all both Dukes are the ones that have sorted it out to the best of my knowledge.

All other 'fakes' mentioned sent to land after the ceasefire from any other player has had the player involved mail the defender before the ceasefire started to state what they had done mainly as they were mistakes. You on the other hand and a few others used these attacks landing after the ceasefire to your advantage (as you have said in your own words) which to me is just bad sportsmanship and a clear breach of the agreement by design not mistake.

So have you not thought if you had not used 'dirty' tactics to gain the advantage then maybe... just maybe your own Duke wouldn't have agreed to the villages being kept by TC now? Food for thought no?

Anyway have a nice xmas.
 

DeletedUser6603

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Well said silk, couldn't agree more. That's the issue for me. What type of attack sent is irrelevant. The ceasefire was deliberately broken by amaze, they have admitted to it, and their former duke told us it would happen. Why shouldn't falcon be allowed to retaliate? You should note that nobody else in tc has joined in, as far as I'm aware anyway, I've been enjoying the Christmas buildup.

Keep trying to deflect it back on us all you like, we're not the ones on here making excuse after excuse after excuse.
 

DeletedUser5390

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Keyboards at the ready its fighting on the internet time!

Lets be honest here cut the bull, if its a mistake man up admit it and apologise or cancel. I myself had to cancel 5 today as im a complete tool and only realised after 5 had been sent haha. And if you meant it dont try and deny it or cover it up, if it was a mistake like some are trying to say then you should have no problem with doing what was agreed and following the rules.
 

DeletedUser7321

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Posting just becase i have not posted for a bit and do not what you lot to miss me.

TC and ER have a few nice players knight Ed 1, The king maker, Jmay, Parker92 and Apotheosis they all replayed to me Ho Ho Ho mail thank you for taking it in the spirit it was intended have to let etiquette personified off as we had already said happy christmas in a dif mail.

Back on topic :( really i get where both sides are coming from but going to say it again

In reality as a defender there is no such thing as a "fake" all incoming just add a number next to :barracks: top right of screen now in my book that's an attack. There is no defence for Amaze's actions in landing after the deadline, However falcon nobling is not right imo fighting fire with fire is not always the best plan just because Amaze broke the rules dose not make it ok for any one to do the same (them that know me know i would have done the same like lol).

Ps respect to SK for not attacking me when i moved in to his back yard :)
 

DeletedUser

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Like I told those that mailed me from Tc on Sunday, if you refuse to stick with what you said you would regret it in the long term. It will cost you a lot more than one village.

so I'm just asking a question. As most your tribe nobled in ceasefire, meaning you didn't really need it. You just wanted it to clean up areas like I told our dukes you would do. Then is it only fair we continue retaliating if it's only fair like Tc have to noble under the pretence of a ceasefire?
 

DeletedUser6603

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So Amaze didn't noble from other tribes after the ceasefire started?

No, wait, they did, just that pesky barb tribe ;-)

We nobled 15 player villas (and a few barbs ill admit) after the unofficial ceasefire starting, and the enforced break coming into play. Thats barely clearing up a CR or two, let alone an entire area. I also count around 15 of our tribe nobling something after the ceasefire. Not even half our tribe, so not even most like you state. Would be nice if you checked your facts before making comment Walshaw.

You got anything else to try and squirm your way out of the disgraceful way your tribe behaved? YOUR tribe refused to stick to the agreement. YOUR former duke confirmed that would be the case a full 36 hours before it was due to kick in. How can you still be trying to defend that?!?

Do carry on though, its quite amusing!

Merry Christmas by the way!
 

DeletedUser7321

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Walshaw you the duke of Amaze ?

I have sod all to do with the running of A.F.A make the councils life hard some times but other than that nothing to do with running of the tribe.
Now to me it sounds like your saying Amaze will be attacking TC in the bit between Christmas and the new year. Can some one from Amaze council clear this up for me as am confused as to what is going on and how your tribe works as sounds like there is very little honer or respect for the word of your duke.
 
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KWAPablo2 said:
Why shouldn't falcon be allowed to retaliate?
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I was refering to that in my previous post, where is the line drawn. If you are allowed to "retaliate" as you put it in your own words. Then why any one else that is not TC? You had 3 points in the original post that has been breeched by yourselves, but you just keep deflecting.

Like refering to Pieman, he didnt once say we woulf breech this. However if you had just given back the village, it would have been the end of it. Instead Amaze no longer has any internal issues, several members that were going to leave no longer are, and all of a sudden the future looks rosey. Not for poor old falcon. But you will see that very soon, and it will cost a lot more than one village ;)
 

DeletedUser6603

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Yes, he did, he said it clearly. As ive already said, that mail is already on this thread.

Why are you not getting this? There is a ceasefire agreed by all the top six tribes. The duke of each tribe had signed up in this very thread to that ceasefire and its terms. Your tribe, chose to ignore it by sending attacks that landed AFTER the ceasefire was due to start. That is a clear breach of its terms, which state: "No attacks will be made or received by any tribe after this time until the agreed end of the ceasefire.". I have clearly highlighted the important bits.

Your tribe made a conscious decision to ignore this to benefit your own op. You breached the ceasefire. What tribe in their right mind would then tell that player to just let it happen?!? As ive already said - no other TC members got involved, only Falcon was allowed to retaliate, as was agreed with your leadership! Why can you not see that the initial act of aggression came from Amaze? Had you not done what you did, Falcon would not have had to retaliate. Its oh so simple!

Happy new year!
 

DeletedUser

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Why was the ceasefire not offered too RIF or EM? Just a thought. They aren't a part of our official war, but it seems they are part of a similar fight.

Currently it looks like this ceasefire was made so ER and TC could easily direct all their attention to these smaller tribes that are 'smaller issues'. Rather than just for the propose of Christmas itself. I would hate to think it is the case, it just gets me thinking.

Is is it too late to offer this ceasefire to these two tribes? I'm sure they would love to enjoy their Christmas away from TW too...?
 

DeletedUser10816

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Ready? said:
Why was the ceasefire not offered too RIF or EM? Just a thought. They aren't a part of our official war, but it seems they are part of a similar fight.

Currently it looks like this ceasefire was made so ER and TC could easily direct all their attention to these smaller tribes that are 'smaller issues'. Rather than just for the propose of Christmas itself. I would hate to think it is the case, it just gets me thinking.

Is is it too late to offer this ceasefire to these two tribes? I'm sure they would love to enjoy their Christmas away from TW too...?
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Firstly, they've not requested to join the ceasefire. I've not seen any requests from any senior council.

Secondly, how far down the list of tribes do you go?... I count 422 active tribes...

The main reason the other tribes were not approached, is because the threat observed from them is minimal in comparison to war between the top 5 or 6 tribes.
 

DeletedUser

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I agree with most of what you said, but i believe TC were the ones approaching the tribes for this ceasefire, so were the drivers behind this idea.

But we all know TC and ER's situation with those two tribes. They are different from the other 400+ tribes outside the top 6 and you can't deny that.

I just believe considering your 'wars' with either tribe it would have been nice to have seen you offer them the same as you offered the rest of the top 6. But that's just my opinion.
 

DeletedUser10816

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Walshaw,

I assume you are one of the "arrogant players" who caused one of your dukes to step down... (not my words - your dukes...)

You write so passionately about how we will regret glancing in your direction, and how we've encouraged you to stay..

Unfortunately for you, practically every person I've seen write with such arrogance, and i've seen your in game mails which are even worse than your posts on the externals, with threats along the lines of:
"you don't know who I am...
I am a mastermind from .net, you've never witnessed the awesomeness of my ops
you will live to regret encouraging me to stay
ask "so and so" who I am, they'll tell you have magnificent I am"

... as I was saying... practically every person I've seen write with such arrogance is either a start up player who gets bored during mid-game, a deluded individual who believes they're far greater than what they are, or are simply attention seeking.

Fortunately, none of these concern me, as you'll either get rimmed due to quitting... get rimmed due to "RL" in their words or "poor game play" in everyone elses... or get rimmed for annoying their tribe mates to the point that even their own dukes feel like they're being told what to do...

Take your pick, and get back to me after you've opened your stocking tomorrow, assuming you've been a good boy rather than naughty!

Based on your in game activity, going against your councils orders deliberately and then screaming foul when it backfires on you... you won't be getting many!.. maybe if you behave more, you'll get more presents next year!

Merry christmas :)
 
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DeletedUser12021

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Walshaw said:
I was refering to that in my previous post, where is the line drawn. If you are allowed to "retaliate" as you put it in your own words. Then why any one else that is not TC? You had 3 points in the original post that has been breeched by yourselves, but you just keep deflecting.

Like refering to Pieman, he didnt once say we woulf breech this. However if you had just given back the village, it would have been the end of it. Instead Amaze no longer has any internal issues, several members that were going to leave no longer are, and all of a sudden the future looks rosey. Not for poor old falcon. But you will see that very soon, and it will cost a lot more than one village ;)
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You'll be doing yourself a favor if you stop it kid.

Your posts are full with contradictions.
They're full with hostility, threats and rage whilst the situation has been discussed between the leaders of the tribes like it always should; so it only makes you look bad.
Next to that your threats à la "you don't know who I'm, better watch out" are just "uuuuugggghhh, seriously? *rolls eyes*"

Since you don't seem to realize; you just keep saying in every post how you breached or will breach the ceasefire again.
 

DeletedUser

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Ready?, I asked the exact same question on why not extend to top 10, my tribe was 9th when I suggested it, and even contacted a few people in PM and never heard back from any as we would have joined it as well but it seems that a few players in the agreed tribe have broken it already, so where are the posts as outlined in first post? :p
 

DeletedUser

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Well who did you contact?
At least one tribe was added in later but initially it was just the tribes involved in the main conflict.
There was an issue which I understand the respective Dukes have dealt with.
 
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