DeletedUser8097
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Greetings.
I have seen a good idea being brought up in the most retarded way possible.
An attempt to make a list of top speed players has ended up with names such as ragnar or ries on top, while players like littledrew, murus.PL and sweet revenge being on the bottom list.
Things like these happen because the only things taken into account were the biased opinion of a bunch of (less or more retarded) players playing the same server.
However, when trying to make an unbiased list of best speed players worldwide, you will all agree that we should take into account way more than what was mentioned above.
Given what I just said, here is an algorithm sketch that will be modified throughout the next weeks, under the ideas of players and speed admins of all servers.
Here we go:
When talking about a list of the best speed players, you cannot make it based only on the opinion of biased people from the same chat / server. Therefore, the algorithm will contain 2 parts: PART 1 - the statistic part (Tournaments played / won / ranked top 3 on ALL servers - from UK to DE, NL, FR, RO etc and MASTERS, Round wins, ladder points average and round efficiency, ladder rankings, seasons taken, Interserver speed championships played / ranked / won, 1 vs. 1 encounters played / won / lost etc) - this part will have to weight 50-70%, depending on the decision of speed players throughout all servers AND PART 2 - the opinion of all players, through all speed servers (a ranking of 10-20 players, picked under certain rules that will make their choice be as unbiased as possible - this part will have to weight 30-50%, depending on the decision of speed players and admins of all speed servers.
PART 1:
Regarding Tournaments played / ranked:
Normal server tournaments will weigh less than MASTERS tournaments.
Interserver championships will have to weigh more than normal masters tourneys.
Longer Tournaments will have to weigh more than medium or short ones.
UK, DE, FR, ES, NL tourneys will all weigh the same amount of points.
Points will be given for participating and being ranked 1st, 2nd or 3rd, as a team in Team tourneys and as individuals in solo tourneys.
Regarding speed ladders:
All speed ladders have to be considered equal, even if some servers are a whole lot weaker than others. It's of common sense and face it, UK is poor compared to PL, DE or RO.
Season wins and ladder ranking may be less relevant but they have to be given a small amount of points in order to encourage the weak, but persuasive players to play.
Round wins, ladderpoints / round indicator should weigh more.
Regarding 1 vs. 1 encounters:
Masters 1 vs. 1 rounds will count most.
Still to be decided upon 1 vs. 1 on normal rounds (could be applied if both players agree to it and it's an undisputed win but there is a long way to go to get here).
Winning a 1 vs. 1 gives you an amount of points, losing the 1 vs. 1 could mean you lose the same amount (to be decided by the majority).
This part will encourage 1 vs. 1 rounds on masters as a mean of advancing on the list.
PART 2:
The opinion of all players counts as well, but we have to make it as less biased as possible.
Here is an algorithm to be tested out:
Each player has to give a list of 20 players he / she considers to be the best.
Players cannot put themselves on their list.
Each list must contain 50% of foreign players and 50% of same-server / country players. As an example, fanat will not have the right to name 11 russians, I will not have the right to name 11 romanians, Patris will not have the right to name 11 UK players.
Each list must not contain more than 25% same server / country players from the same side. Meaning, I will have to pick at least 5 players from the enemy side - SLAP, former SLAP I play against, charo (if I consider him any good), II etc. At the same time, Daser will be allowed to pick no more than 5 SLAP players, the other 5 will have to be picked among NON-SLAP, NON-US team players. Try to make this as little biased as possible.
Amount of points given for each parameter is still to be discussed.
Players of all servers will be allowed to join the rankings.
The idea, should it seem catchy, will sooner or later reach all servers.
Please discuss here only the algorithm and how we can make it better. Lists of players and your own performance will be discussed only when we have something to work with.
Suggesting a list of no more than 50 top players, as anything beyond that will require way more time than possible to work with.
I have seen a good idea being brought up in the most retarded way possible.
An attempt to make a list of top speed players has ended up with names such as ragnar or ries on top, while players like littledrew, murus.PL and sweet revenge being on the bottom list.
Things like these happen because the only things taken into account were the biased opinion of a bunch of (less or more retarded) players playing the same server.
However, when trying to make an unbiased list of best speed players worldwide, you will all agree that we should take into account way more than what was mentioned above.
Given what I just said, here is an algorithm sketch that will be modified throughout the next weeks, under the ideas of players and speed admins of all servers.
Here we go:
When talking about a list of the best speed players, you cannot make it based only on the opinion of biased people from the same chat / server. Therefore, the algorithm will contain 2 parts: PART 1 - the statistic part (Tournaments played / won / ranked top 3 on ALL servers - from UK to DE, NL, FR, RO etc and MASTERS, Round wins, ladder points average and round efficiency, ladder rankings, seasons taken, Interserver speed championships played / ranked / won, 1 vs. 1 encounters played / won / lost etc) - this part will have to weight 50-70%, depending on the decision of speed players throughout all servers AND PART 2 - the opinion of all players, through all speed servers (a ranking of 10-20 players, picked under certain rules that will make their choice be as unbiased as possible - this part will have to weight 30-50%, depending on the decision of speed players and admins of all speed servers.
PART 1:
Regarding Tournaments played / ranked:
Normal server tournaments will weigh less than MASTERS tournaments.
Interserver championships will have to weigh more than normal masters tourneys.
Longer Tournaments will have to weigh more than medium or short ones.
UK, DE, FR, ES, NL tourneys will all weigh the same amount of points.
Points will be given for participating and being ranked 1st, 2nd or 3rd, as a team in Team tourneys and as individuals in solo tourneys.
Regarding speed ladders:
All speed ladders have to be considered equal, even if some servers are a whole lot weaker than others. It's of common sense and face it, UK is poor compared to PL, DE or RO.
Season wins and ladder ranking may be less relevant but they have to be given a small amount of points in order to encourage the weak, but persuasive players to play.
Round wins, ladderpoints / round indicator should weigh more.
Regarding 1 vs. 1 encounters:
Masters 1 vs. 1 rounds will count most.
Still to be decided upon 1 vs. 1 on normal rounds (could be applied if both players agree to it and it's an undisputed win but there is a long way to go to get here).
Winning a 1 vs. 1 gives you an amount of points, losing the 1 vs. 1 could mean you lose the same amount (to be decided by the majority).
This part will encourage 1 vs. 1 rounds on masters as a mean of advancing on the list.
PART 2:
The opinion of all players counts as well, but we have to make it as less biased as possible.
Here is an algorithm to be tested out:
Each player has to give a list of 20 players he / she considers to be the best.
Players cannot put themselves on their list.
Each list must contain 50% of foreign players and 50% of same-server / country players. As an example, fanat will not have the right to name 11 russians, I will not have the right to name 11 romanians, Patris will not have the right to name 11 UK players.
Each list must not contain more than 25% same server / country players from the same side. Meaning, I will have to pick at least 5 players from the enemy side - SLAP, former SLAP I play against, charo (if I consider him any good), II etc. At the same time, Daser will be allowed to pick no more than 5 SLAP players, the other 5 will have to be picked among NON-SLAP, NON-US team players. Try to make this as little biased as possible.
Amount of points given for each parameter is still to be discussed.
Players of all servers will be allowed to join the rankings.
The idea, should it seem catchy, will sooner or later reach all servers.
Please discuss here only the algorithm and how we can make it better. Lists of players and your own performance will be discussed only when we have something to work with.
Suggesting a list of no more than 50 top players, as anything beyond that will require way more time than possible to work with.
