Top 2 tribes

Drift Banksy

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This world looks like a 2 horse race so far, normally around 4-5 tribes, so is unusual, but may change when others reach nobleing stages.
Lets compare the top 2 anyway.
rank 1 chown Opponents defeated:46.225 Total points:145.265
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50% of conquerors are barbs - 2 ex players there
36% players below 750 points some particular lows of 81,156, 159, 284 (all these might aswell be barbs except maybe 741)
4 good player conquerors (14%)

Rank 2 RASTA Opponents defeated:70.532 Total points:146.381

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17% barbs - 1 ex player
47% players below 750 points
10 good player conquerors (33%)

Quite a significant difference...
(edit:calculations arent 100% correct but pretty close)
 

Nauzhror

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Barbarian village (526|467) K45 81 Barbarian bigrrisback [WAW] 2017-05-31 20:15:15
Manhattan (526|471) K45 210 Scorpios [Blank] Henry McCarty [WAW] 2017-05-29 00:53:11
Lord Dons village (525|469) K45 326 Lord Don Lord Wannabe [WAW] 2017-05-28 21:52:45
[K45]~ZioN~ (526|466) K45 224 Codsamunts madlung [WAW] 2017-05-28 15:13:32
[K45]~ZioN~ (528|465) K45 92 Barbarian madlung [WAW] 2017-05-27 17:28:58

Those should be counted as RASTA IMO. Not saying it changes things much, but they were all made by RASTA members right before RASTA was formed.

I also think it's silly to not count my conquer of Roquan as a "good" conquer. It was sub-1k, but it was the largest conquer on the world at the time, he was top 5 ODA before I nobled him, and was made rank 1 ODD by me nobling him.

All in all, I think a lot of people nobled barbs because they just wanted to quickly get villages to raise the warehouse in and abuse the event with. Also when picking between a barb or a small player a barb is often a better option - especially if nobling without a train - so you don't potentially hit a low-morale stack.

Ravandil's 1122 point barb was also the duke of Immune, he restarted right before being nobled.
 

Drift Banksy

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I did count your conquer. you, pani and 2 trebor.
The trebor's probably only had troops in one, but i cant say for sure still good villages to get anyway.
 

Nauzhror

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Madlung sacrificed himself today to teach us all a very valuable lesson:

https://uk32.tribalwars.co.uk/public_report/ab986eadbeede50f3981173c1b4965af
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213 rams, live by it. Treat it like your religion.

125 rams:
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213 rams:
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The difference is not slight. you don't hit potentially stacked villages with under 213 rams, especially not low morale ones.

If you don't have 213 rams, wait till you do. By then you will also have more axes and lc.
 
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DeletedUser14502

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Hiya Banksy,

Bit new to the competitive/meta side of TW but I'm about to noble their 'best' player's main village and they all think its a fake ram train because it's hitting in NB (and I have another train going elsewhere!) - would this count as a good conquer? ;P
Will
 

Drift Banksy

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there isnt really a definition for good, its subjective to the person saying it, as long as you are happy with it, then thats ok.
Banksy
 

DeletedUser14261

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Madlung sacrificed himself today to teach us all a very valuable lesson:

https://uk32.tribalwars.co.uk/public_report/ab986eadbeede50f3981173c1b4965af
3DogYFX.png

213 rams, live by it. Treat it like your religion.

125 rams:
GGfMIWJ.jpg


213 rams:
YcIGdPO.jpg


The difference is not slight. you don't hit potentially stacked villages with under 213 rams, especially not low morale ones.

If you don't have 213 rams, wait till you do. By then you will also have more axes and lc.

Well thank you for the lesson xd ^^
I dont disagree with your points, and normally thats also the plan - but i dont like the thought that only 1 thing is the right thing to do. If TW has taught me anyhing, its to adapt to your environment.
Like if I start in the center of the map, i will focus axes a lot more then if i start up in the edge with more barbs around and fewer people - like, you dont build your wall up early if there is no danger right ?
On this server i joined in late, and i just bought a new house ( like you care xD ) so i knew from the start that farming barbs would never be my main income on this server.... I went for playerfarming early on, and also had ODA rank 1 in the start.
That cost troops, but with event around the cornor i was thinking ; keep the ball rolling - and so i did taking 8 citys from rather small players around me.
Had i gone for full cleaner and train - ofc i would have gone for bigger targets - but i didnt....
And beside all that, the report there is me throwing off and 2 nobles to help a tribemate take a city. So no i didnt scout, but he did and at that point it was empty and we knew a lot of deff was placed in another city.
So fair to call it a risky move - but i would do it all over again xD
 

Nauzhror

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Thread was made Monday. Posting stats then and now to see the changes since then.


Side 1:
Tribes: RASTA
Side 2:
Tribes: chown

Timeframe: 18/05/2017 00:00:00 to 05/06/2017 00:00:00

Total conquers:

Side 1: 26
Side 2: 28
Difference: 2

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Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 23,597
Side 2: 15,080
Difference: 8,517

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Our early conquers were definitely inferior on average. 539 points for us, 908 for Rasta.

Since then:

Side 1:
Tribes: RASTA
Side 2:
Tribes: chown

Timeframe: 05/06/2017 00:00:00 to 12/06/2017 00:00:00

Total conquers:

Side 1: 22
Side 2: 18
Difference: 4

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Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 0
Side 2: 1
Difference: 1

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Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 13,561
Side 2: 29,818
Difference: 16,257

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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 0
Side 2: 2,551
Difference: 2,551

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Since then though I'd say the trend has sufficiently reversed.

All in all we're slightly ahead, as below is the combination of the two timespans:

Side 1:
Tribes: RASTA
Side 2:
Tribes: chown

Timeframe: 18/05/2017 00:00:00 to 12/06/2017 00:00:00

Total conquers:

Side 1: 48
Side 2: 46
Difference: 2

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Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 0
Side 2: 1
Difference: 1

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Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 37,158
Side 2: 44,898
Difference: 7,740

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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 0
Side 2: 2,551
Difference: 2,551

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DeletedUser14261

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^ ^
yeah the 3 free citys you got from Knightmare did you guys well - especially the 9000+ p city must have helped that average quite a bit ;)
 

Nauzhror

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They're a factor, but not the major one.

[007] Never Look a Gift Horse (510|527) K55 717 Knightmare [ODA] Nauzhror [chown] 2017-06-06 02:56:51
[006] Real 6th Village (513|531) K55 1,049 Knightmare [ODA] Nauzhror [chown] 2017-06-06 01:00:32
[008] In The Mouth (511|528) K55 9,106 Knightmare Nauzhror [chown] 2017-06-07 08:04:26

That's 10,872 points.

Subtract them and this:

Total conquers:

Side 1: 22
Side 2: 18
Difference: 4

Side 1: 13,561
Side 2: 29,818
Difference: 16,257


becomes:

Total conquers:

Side 1: 22
Side 2: 15
Difference: 7

Side 1: 13,561
Side 2: 18,946
Difference: 5,385

You've still nobled 22 villages with an average size of 616 points while we either nobled 15 with an average size of 1263 or 18 with an average size of 1,657.

The real story isn't Knightmare gifting, it's that Rasta's super tight cluster has made them run out of decent noble targets.
 

Nauzhror

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Was there a memo sent out in the past three days?

Something about a nobling ban? Perhaps it was only sent to Rasta?

Side 1:
Tribes: chown
Side 2:
Tribes: RASTA

Timeframe: 11/06/2017 00:00:00 to 14/06/2017 14:28:22

Total conquers:

Side 1: 19
Side 2: 3
Difference: 16

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Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 32,603
Side 2: 2,333
Difference: 30,270

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At the time of this post both tribes have 79 villages. Three days ago Rasta had 16 more villages than chown.
 

Nauzhror

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Seems their ban on nobling was lifted.

Side 1:
Tribes: chown
Side 2:
Tribes: RASTA

Timeframe: 14/06/2017 14:28:22 to 17/06/2017 12:52:23

Total conquers:

Side 1: 7
Side 2: 12
Difference: 5

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Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 15,324
Side 2: 18,367
Difference: 3,043

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DeletedUser13435

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This is with the internallig of rukey and probably others - Soon hitting some really good growth

Side 1:
Tribes: Soon
Side 2:
Tribes: chown

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers:

Side 1: 29
Side 2: 19
Difference: 10

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Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 0
Side 2: 0
Difference: 0

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Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 61,683
Side 2: 55,930
Difference: 5,753

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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 0
Side 2: 0
Difference: 0

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Side 1:
Tribes: Soon
Side 2:
Tribes: RASTA

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers:

Side 1: 29
Side 2: 25
Difference: 4

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Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 0
Side 2: 0
Difference: 0

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Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 61,683
Side 2: 55,608
Difference: 6,075

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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 0
Side 2: 0
Difference: 0

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