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It can be a human characteristic depending on influences in early life.
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I think we need a large welfare state, not to punish the rich drastically, but to do the best to make the gap between smaller, even if that means taxing the rich more. The rich should be taxed enough to enough to help the poor, but not too much to not make it worth being rich.
I know socialist ideas are a bit last year, but this is my belief.
Don't they try do that in most governments? :icon_confused:
DeletedUser613
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Don't they try do that in most governments? :icon_confused:
they try, but then rich people and buisnesses threaten to leave, etc.
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Which is why the millionaires in government in the recent cuts, have made them so it is the poor who are affected and not the wealthiest.
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they try, but then rich people and buisnesses threaten to leave, etc.
Ah Ok, so his socialist idea is just a bit more extremest?
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Communism can never work since it involves having a dictator.
Socialism, on the other hand...or marxism, COULD work if executed properly, but we all know it will never happen unless something drastic changes...
Socialism, on the other hand...or marxism, COULD work if executed properly, but we all know it will never happen unless something drastic changes...
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Titoism ftw!
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Radarrism FTW!! :icon_redface:
Titoism..?
Titoism..?
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I believe Tito was the communist leader of Yugoslavia and he had his own way of running things seperate from the Soviet Union.
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Indeed.
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Communism can never work since it involves having a dictator.
Socialism, on the other hand...or marxism, COULD work if executed properly, but we all know it will never happen unless something drastic changes...
You need to give some definitions if you're going to make such distinctions. For instance: "Communism... involves having a dictator" - says who?
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Communism can never work since it involves having a dictator.
Socialism, on the other hand...or marxism, COULD work if executed properly, but we all know it will never happen unless something drastic changes...
Get out of here right this instant and don't return till you relearn the definition of Communism.
In fact, just leave now.
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Cougar :3
DeletedUser3312
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Chinese communism is very different as many countries have their own ideas on communism however a high ranking head of a Chinese company does not receive the same amount of money as a trash collector.
Hmmm... Where did I say that? :icon_neutral:
DeletedUser
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You need to give some definitions if you're going to make such distinctions. For instance: "Communism... involves having a dictator" - says who?
Says Marx.
Marx stated that Socialism needs 3 steps to get it completed. However, step 2 involves a dictator. This is what we call communism and this is where all nations got stuck.
Actually, you're right, you don't NEED to have a dictator, but name one communist state that didn't have one...
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Says Marx.
Marx stated that Socialism needs 3 steps to get it completed. However, step 2 involves a dictator. This is what we call communism and this is where all nations got stuck.
Actually, you're right, you don't NEED to have a dictator, but name one communist state that didn't have one...
Wait what? Where in gods name does Marx state that you need anything relatively close to a dictator? I've read numerous excerpts from The Communist Manifesto and nowhere is anything similar to a dictator mentioned.
Marx argued that Communism was a classless society. And I quote directly, "Political power, properly so called, is merely the organized power of one class for oppressing another," (Marx). Since Communism is a classless society as stated by Marx, Communism can have no mention of anything like or similar to a dictator.
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He argued revolution and obviously one type of government (communist) but not an actual permanent dictator.
It just so happens that most communist countries so far have gone with dictators
It just so happens that most communist countries so far have gone with dictators
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Depends on the type of dictatorship.
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The Dictators come about because the people want someone to lead them. It's bloody damn hard to go from imperialist/capitalist society with a government to a truly equal communist society without a state in one revolution, people wouldn't know how to function now that the bedrock of their life has been radically changed.
As far as I'm concerned, that's one of the fundamental reasons why previous attempts at forming a Communist state have never been completely successful.
All this stuff about it requiring a dictator at any point is just crap.
As far as I'm concerned, that's one of the fundamental reasons why previous attempts at forming a Communist state have never been completely successful.
All this stuff about it requiring a dictator at any point is just crap.
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Though it would take a dictator to implement communism most effectively. Someone with total power can intervene a lot more effectively.
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