New to tribal wars.

DeletedUser11418

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Hello tribal wars community, my name is Kevin and i just started playing tribal wars again.
A long time ago i didnt know really how the game worked and i started late game and played it for a month on a x2 server. I conquered a few barbarian villages, but, didnt have any troops, so i got conquered.

Later i played some speeds, and i got lucky to not get attacked by anyone and i was kind of a point whore. I learned how to use the account manager + premium + farm assisstant. Farm assistant is very usefull, and i mean very, premium not that much, and account manager would make my troop builds in my villages.

Back to the point. I have a few questions about starting up late, and how to maintain a good resource income from farming in a very competitive area.

Yesterday i went to one US world, i think its the US64, i started late, had 2 barbarian villages just touching me, one had 26 points, and the other one about 150. How can i keep farming these if i keep losing spears because of the wall? i havent reached the workshop to make rams yet. If i dont farm it, i wont get resources, if i do, i lose spears and hauls are almost non existant, what should i do?


Ive read quite alot of guides on how to start up, they all tell you to level this building and that building then make 50 troops of this, etc. Most of them say to get 34:spear: and send them with a paladin to a barbarian village. The spears keep on dieing. Even if i try escorting them with swords and axes like the guides say.

Thanks for the patience, im basicaly new to this game and i would apreciate any advice on farming.
 

DeletedUser4083

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If you are losing troops on a wall then the best thing to do is find vills with no walls to farm, even if it means sending your troops several hours away. Obviously spears are your first troop type (aside from the paladin) at the start of the game, so you can use them to farm with until you have upgraded your mines and buildings enough to produce Light cavalry. After that you can keep the spears for defence (and the odd bit of close range farming), whilst you use your Lc to farm everywhere else.
Spears are primarily a defensive unit, which is why they are weaker in attacking villages. Even if the village has no wall the base defence of the village could lose you the odd spearman, but so long as most of them survive then it will be all right :). Keep an eye on the activity of players in your 7x7 area too, if some fall inactive then if you aggressive enough you can farm them, and potentially get more res from them than the barbs. Farming both barbs and players should get you a decent res income, especially when farming them several times a day.
As to your comment regarding the standard premium account, that becomes useful as soon as people start attacking you, as you can use it to have quick access to scripts and links such as an incoming renamer, great for finding out what speed the troops are coming at you (allowing you to work out if it is a scout or ram attack, or maybe something else).
 

DeletedUser11418

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Thanks for the help philipster, i have found a few inactives around me besides the 2 barbarian villages next to me. There is one inactive player with 32 points about 4-5fields away, ive sent an attack with full hauls, at the moment i only have around 50 spears, 10 swords, 10 axes and 1 paladin.
There are about 2 inactives with over 120 points (possibly with a wall), and 3 inactives without a wall, all of them 3-6fields away.

One last thing, the barbarian village with 26 points touching my village, could i send a paladin alone to it? if it doesnt have a wall, or will the basic village defense kill my paladin? since i could constantly send my paladin there saving my spears for further away farms :)

P.S: Im using this startup guide:
http://files.shiftax.com/Almost_Easy/Lightning-Start-Up.htm
is it good?
 
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DeletedUser9598

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Yeah its a good guide to follow, the more experience you pick up then the more likely you are to tweak a few things to suit your style of play but for beginners its not bad
 

DeletedUser4083

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I would advise still sending a few spears with your paladin to be on the safe side, there is safety in numbers too.
 

DeletedUser3312

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Yeah its a good guide to follow, the more experience you pick up then the more likely you are to tweak a few things to suit your style of play but for beginners its not bad
+1

First and last guide I ever used
 

DeletedUser11418

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Thanks, btw, on my other world i got 2 villages, 5000 points total :
1st 3700 points; 1000 spears 600 swords 50 archers 600 axes 200 lc 200 scouts 22 rams
2nd 1300points (Nobled not long ago ) 200 spears, 200 swords, 150 lc

There are over 20 barbarian villages in my 15x15, i farm like 20 villages every 1-2 hours when i split my farming groups in 10 or 20 lc with a scout + farming assistant so i can see exactly which have a full wherehouse or not.

Im going to noble my 3rd village tonight, another with 1000 points, i dont have many villages here to conquer, 1 is a friend wwith 5 villages and others are my allies,

world started 3-4 weeks ago if im not mistaken

Should i keep 100-150 lc every village i make to farm? wether its defensive or not? I dont think its usefull to farm with 1 offensive village only in a 25x25 zone and send the resources to my other villages trough market.

EDIT: in that guide when it says to get iron to 24 and the other pits to 22, i dont really think it would be wise to level the workshop/stables/barracks if i cant keep a constant queue, and better rush HQ(20), Smithy (20)and market (10) to build the academy, nor do i agree getting farm to level 29 before academy, it would take ages of recruiting and gathering resources for a farm that high
 
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DeletedUser4083

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If you can build Hc on the world, then build Hc into def setup and use them to farm. Whilst they don't haul as much as Lc, they still haul enough to keep you going :)

Before nobling I'd usually have the farm at 27, if I can afford the time then I will get my farm to 29 or even 30, allowing me to build as many troops as possible. After all you can never have enough troops when going to battle :p. It does depend on your location and your aggressiveness to other players as to how far you decide to build before wanting or needing to noble.
 

DeletedUser11418

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Cool :); im in a pretty "safe" zone atm, my allies and tribe members are conquering alot now, i conquered my 3rd village just now, there werent any other good villages to conquer other than ones with 1000 points, Il make my 3rd ofensive, 1 and 2 defensive, though i got some offence on 001. Il just slowly recruit and build my buildings and farm as much as i can ;)

Thanks!
 

DeletedUser

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I would advise still sending a few spears with your paladin to be on the safe side, there is safety in numbers too.

A few spears is likely to afford you one or two casualties though. A paladin will not die on a 26 point village, regardless of luck.
 

DeletedUser9522

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Anything less than 40 spears, and you're looking at losses for a 100<200 point barb. If you're getting small hauls its not really worth sending them to those villages if you're still losing a spear or two.
 
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