Shhh vs AFA

DeletedUser14043

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Leobarth it just sounds like you used to succeed at this game over poorer players just because you had a stupid advantage such as knowing how to send a perfect noble train, anti-backtime tool, farming multi tab - surely you having this over players is much worse than TW offering everyone an even start with a level playing field? Now that you don't have your unfair advantage, you simply aern't good enough to compete in the same way.

This is a sound response... well thought and to the point.

- I am every bit as successful in this environment. You're missing the point.
- Why should everyone be offered "an even start" as you so eloquently put it?
- We all start at the same point level do we not?
- We all choose the hours we want to game, do we not?
- So why should one whom chooses to log in for 2 hours per day have the same advantages (24hour construction, 24 hour troop build, etc...) that a player whom chooses to game 2, 4, 8x that?

Where I ask you is the logic in that thought process? Should your co-worker be paid the same amount as you if he/she doesn't work the same hours as you because by your logic... "even start theory" that is exactly what your saying. So please, explain it to me without saying well... the player playing more hours has an advantage because player farms more. We aren't talking about farming... we are talking about the "auto running adds to the game". Yes, I understand the player farming more has an advantage but the advantage is reduced by the dev's push to make more money from premium. Flags, Account Manager, Loot Assistant, Troop manager and now noble fairs and who knows whats next. None of these are to improve the game. They actually reduce the games original design but they most certainly improve the games profits... Where does the gamer benefit? In the "auto" aspects? Seriously? The gamer advantage is removed and the player advantage is greatly enhanced by everything Inno has done over the last 5 years. Gamers put forth the effort to win. Players simply want something to pass the time and maybe meet a few friends in. The gamers of this game have now been forced to simple do startup, maybe play a month of midgame and they move on. For players like me, that have game TW since world 4 on .net.... this is sad and highly destructive to our game style but as the more players come and more gamers leave, Inno will be forced to continue to make "auto play" adjustments in order to keep the profits coming.
 

DeletedUser

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I spend 16+ hours on this game daily.

Get a life.

I'm highly educated, I'm highly successful. I'm semi-retired at age 51 and I've not met anyone whom I will bow down to. I'm respected enough in this game that I was asked to mod on TW2. I've led 3 .net tribes to winning victories from start to finish. I've done the same on both the .us server and the .ro server...

Ironic how you call her a snob, yet you are far more arrogant and snobbish than her :p

I've spent more time in this game then you could possibly imagine

Because you are a sad no-lifer
:icon_rolleyes:

You however (if you're the yorkie co) are and always have been a trouble maker with a reputation of insolence and disgust.

Yorkie gives himself that awful reputation; Not his supposed "co's".


Players like you, that whine about players like me who go beyond the norm of just logging, sending 1 farm run and logging off, have ruined this game.

You're the one who has been whining about everything even possible in TW. People like you who moan about EVERYTHING and don't like when the truth hits them, ruin the game. Because you just make arguments/discussions pointless and pathetic.


Therefore... I'm done with you and your snobbish, doltish dialog. Consider this the last response you'll receive from me you degenerate clown.

You say that, but I bet you end up replying to her again because admit it, who can really resist the great LightlJo? :D

​Bold
 

DeletedUser5582

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you really are a snob
one whom uses condescending moronic words to make yourself feel superior. you're not and in fact, you're much the opposite.
you throw out excuses and insinuate that one whom has the time available has no life. Let me share something little miss hottie (not)... I spend 16+ hours on this game daily. I've traveled to foreign countries while winning worlds as a duke to meet my players I've met on this game that are now RL friends.

I'm highly educated, I'm highly successful. I'm semi-retired at age 51 and I've not met anyone whom I will bow down to. I'm respected enough in this game that I was asked to mod on TW2. I've led 3 .net tribes to winning victories from start to finish. I've done the same on both the .us server and the .ro server...

I've spent more time in this game then you could possibly imagine and I've enjoyed virtually every minute of it. I've been rimmed by less experienced players and rimmed more experienced players and in almost every circumstance I've ended the battle amicably and often with well earned respect to the opponent.

You however (if you're the yorkie co) are and always have been a trouble maker with a reputation of insolence and disgust. That is why when I befriended your co-player I was told to reconsider by so many. I didn't reconsider it... I stayed true to the decision that he and I made and our dealings have always been respectful and straight forward without any condescending tones. Unlike every word you've posted here.

Players like you, that whine about players like me who go beyond the norm of just logging, sending 1 farm run and logging off, have ruined this game. It's typical of socialist and liberals to consider themselves intellectually superior to all others and rarely can they point to why their superior. Therefore... I'm done with you and your snobbish, doltish dialog. Consider this the last response you'll receive from me you degenerate clown.

am not a liberal or a socialist nor do I log in and send one farm run then log off nor am Yorkie's co (who is Yorkie?). Bar that you are spot on as always especially re the excuses. Am merely pointing out that having to spend 16 hrs a day on a game doesn't suit all so perhaps you should reflect on that and if, as it seems it does, irritate you that the game developers have made it easier for newer players to compete then maybe move on?

Your assumptions are wrong, your views are well delusional and if you befriended the co player I don't have well I guess that makes your argument spot on.

Good luck with convincing us that spending 16 hrs a day playing TW means you also have a life. I don't agree with all the changes Inno has made to the game but I do believe that they are looking out for the many and not the few that post on here.
 

Maggie Wallis

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would you have it in any way different?! I think not!

To be fair... I think it be best for both of us if we didn't both end up back here... I can always remember Nauz posting that he didn't want to be remembered as someone that couldn't give up this stupid game, or something like that...

Are you playing the game or just playing with one idiot at a time on the forum?...
 

DeletedUser2178

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Soooooooo back on topic then :)

Side 1:
Tribes: A.F.A, A.F.A., AFA.
Side 2:
Tribes: Shh!, Shhh!, Shhhh!, Shhhhh


Timeframe: Last week


Total conquers against opposite side:


Side 1: 29
Side 2: 4
Difference: 25


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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:


Side 1: 160,827
Side 2: 19,934
Difference: 140,893


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DeletedUser

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Loebarth still whining on. Cringing at some of the things you put.

100 ms worlds add in skills. Yes you can send a train with ease, but from there you need skill. Fake trains, anti snipes etc.

Events such as noble fair - yeah a way to get Inno some extra cash, but it enhances the game for new players, keeps them around to learn more. The worlds are small as they are, more players the better. Enhancement of the game makes each fight more unique (such the attack and defensive buffs) - adding that factor before the fight of 'will they have a buff, will they use a buff?'

AM which you refer to has been around for years, so can hardly complain about it. Of which you need 5 villages to activate.. - Yes allows buildings to build constantly upto 50 builds, and allows constant troop construction, too with movement of resources. However, these can still be achieved without AM - and all on PA. So really, not much of an advantage. PA is probably more of an advantage to anyone, than the perfect trains, or 100ms gaps. But PA is the norm with many players

So, if you dislike so much about the game, why do you still play and cause a stupid fuss for nothing?
 

DeletedUser14043

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- forced attack gaps add in skill... try sniping a train with 4 nobles landing in 100ms...

- forced attack gaps add in skill... try sending a snipe block on a forced gap train... (oh, wait... the force pushes the snipe block behind the last noble... dev's removing skill, but then who really wants to snipe block anyway, that takes effort.. lol)

- the point you all seem blind to is the reason the Dev's implemented a 100ms attack gap. It doesn't add in skill, it protects the unskilled. One can't even argue that it protects those whom don't have the ability to send a "t" or "google" train because in the old game when someone's net was down or slow.. they circ'd the tribe and asked someone to send for them. Now.. tribes aren't active enough for someone to respond to the circ... in much part because of the account manager. (see the silliness of the statement.. more skilled?)

- please, by all means, present to me how forced attack gap makes the game "more skilled"?

- additionally, now.. one can't send support to a village until one owns it... (yes this a world specific setting but it's becoming more the norm because again, the dev's are protecting the less active player)

- Morale... most of you haven't gamed long enough to remember the "no morale" worlds even though many here have game for 5, 6+ years. Ask yourself, why are they no longer releasing "no morale" worlds? It's because they protect the turtles, the noobs and yes, the players from the gamers... Gamers in a no morale world role through it. Especially in worlds without Night bonus...

- AM was the start of the degradation of the game... go back to W29 when it was initially discussed or in W39 (i think) when it was implemented... gamer's hated it because they knew they were losing a "huge" advantage over the players... in old game - time played = success which equated to tighter knit tribes and groups of friends. new game - time played = boring, rarely do peeps spend time chatting on skype or actually becoming inseparable ingame.

- Events such as the noble fair haven't anything to do with increasing the participants involvement or heighten the experience. Inno intro'd the noble fair to make the game more profitable and again, it is a "Pay 2 Win" enhancement. My question is, how could you like it?

As I've said above... the new game isn't even close to what the old game once was. The new game is the lazy players gift and the rich players utopia. The game is no longer about skill and more about whom is going to spend the most money. Furthermore, because of AM and Resource Balance and Troop Manager... well, players sign in.. they send 1 farming raid and they sign out. Not all, but most.

Lastly, the AM is also ruining the game by allowing the participants to be less active. Sure... AM is still constructing buildings and TM is still keeping troops in the que but... they aren't farming. Hence, gamers (players that put more then 6hrs of playing into the game) tend to migrate to the tribe(s) with the most active participants. Why?? Because they know when war breaks.. tribes with the most troops win. AM and TM have simply allowed the lazy player to appear more active while in reality they become a burden to tribes with gamers. Inevitably the lazy player is the first to ask the active gamer to send support. They, the lazy player, does so without feeling guilty (talk about being selfish) and the gamer sends but inwardly is frustrated. They rarely say it but they always think it... (ughh.. another lazy player wanting me to sacrifice my growth to save his/her lazy arse.)

I've stated my disdain for the new game. I won't defend my belief any further. I will continue that which I enjoy. Mentoring, teamwork, learning and mostly.. meeting new people within the game. I won't ever enjoy the game as much as I once did as it's no longer the once great game it was.
 
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DeletedUser

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Can you ladies get your own thread if you're going to go off topic and cry...:icon_rolleyes:
 

DeletedUser13811

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I agree. I let it slide because any activity on these forums is appreciated but Loebarth make your own thread for your constant complaining a 'shhh vs AFA' thread is hardly the place
 

DeletedUser2178

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And this is exactly why hardly anyone bothers with the externals, we play this game for a bit of fun, to break up the day to day crap we endure at work or from our wives :lol: i personally don't care how someone else feels about the game and im probably not on my own, when i think its not for me anymore i will stop playing. [h=1]Shhh vs AFA[/h]
 

DeletedUser5582

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I agree. I let it slide because any activity on these forums is appreciated but Loebarth make your own thread for your constant complaining a 'shhh vs AFA' thread is hardly the place

^^ this. Go on Loebarth make your own thread and lets debate your concerns (will be nice I promise)

To be fair... I think it be best for both of us if we didn't both end up back here... I can always remember Nauz posting that he didn't want to be remembered as someone that couldn't give up this stupid game, or something like that...

Are you playing the game or just playing with one idiot at a time on the forum?...

dabbling only just 16 hrs a day....

Soooooooo back on topic then :)

Side 1:
Tribes: A.F.A, A.F.A., AFA.
Side 2:
Tribes: Shh!, Shhh!, Shhhh!, Shhhhh


Timeframe: Last week


Total conquers against opposite side:


Side 1: 29
Side 2: 4
Difference: 25


chart



Points value of total conquers against opposite side:


Side 1: 160,827
Side 2: 19,934
Difference: 140,893


chart

Is interesting to see family v family with these settings. Are quite a few shsss players would have on my teamlist for a good tribe but have to say this does not bode well these stats. Is early doors but can shsss pull it back from here or will this be another addendum to the "why family tribes fail" thesis?

Finally

lighty jo welcome back miss you :]

Miss you too Furry!
 

DeletedUser

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^^ this. Go on Loebarth make your own thread and lets debate your concerns (will be nice I promise)



dabbling only just 16 hrs a day....


Is interesting to see family v family with these settings. Are quite a few shsss players would have on my teamlist for a good tribe but have to say this does not bode well these stats. Is early doors but can shsss pull it back from here or will this be another addendum to the "why family tribes fail" thesis?

Finally



Miss you too Furry!
Side 1:
Tribes: A.F.A, A.F.A., AFA.
Side 2:
Tribes: Shh!, Shhh!, Shhhh!, Shhhhh

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers:

Side 1: 141
Side 2: 124
Difference: 17

chart


Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 39
Side 2: 5
Difference: 34

chart


Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 486,816
Side 2: 368,029
Difference: 118,787

chart


Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 215,965
Side 2: 26,126
Difference: 189,839

chart



hello jo
been a while
 

DeletedUser5582

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The stats are one sided but if you look at the map with the two families in (had not realised quite how big the families were but hey ho is your choice I guess)

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Green/light blue and yellow being AFA and purple /red and and pink being the silent types

So is clear that position wise AFA family have the edge with that string of shss villas heading NW which should be easy to take. Mind you that sort of asks the question what the shsss leaders were thinking but I guess when in a family size is everything recruit huggle common sense is one of the first casualties. Sad times. But if they can weather the early losses can;t see why this shouldn't turn out into a decent war.

lol
 

DeletedUser

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hi all do not post much as just get shot down by others who are not even playing the same world..

A.F.A is a tribe pretty much made up from W16 the final war 2 tribes who had a fight and and went sod next world want to join forces as in away both warring tribes w16 proved to each other they can stay a fight and last to the end.... so a family tribe built on past experience

what A.F.A do well is talk and chat and other advise you can not stick to same players same chats you need new blood and to give a chance to new players to encourage the growth of the game.

As for shhh think they just went into melt down 4 tribes now just recruited hoping points did mean troops
and made some bad calls.
Do not think they was expecting as a respected tribe, they are from other worlds to be in a major fight this early and expected normal game play go about taking others smaller tribes wait and fight each other later.

A.F.A is a family tribe and was won a world it will again

just my view
 
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