SWARM F vs TR F

[DeletedUser]

We at SWARM. all know why your account was banned Rc
multi accounting

from our forums
"Just to let everyone know that we have identified one spy in Swarm!

bigshotbob was actually being account sat by Rc1207 of TR, who was also sitting Meado of ODA. It would appear that all 3 accounts have now been frozen/locked."

so everyone this is how TR operate then

Meado is my older brother Triarii, and Bob was played by his girlfriend Nikki. We had the accounts marked as shared internet connection, so we have done nothing wrong.

If I was sitting them, it would have showed to your leaders, and I seriously doubt they are stupid enough to miss something like that! Don't talk about things you have no understanding of, and make accusations which are false and you cannot back up!

 

[DeletedUser6748]

I first approach Rc to discuss the STL war and to check up how much our diplomats had contact with TR, this was near the start of the war. from this we spoke about a few things, mainly about RL compared to TW. few weeks later got discussing Olo and nelly, admittedly i wanted Olo to join, but i did not know at the time why he got kicked and that TR would moan so much.

Then started talking about joining what rules i would have to follow position in the tribe etc... Then one night on msn speaking to LL Rc etc agreed to move. At the time i honestly thought i was the only one moving and was preparing for the back lash from everyone in swarm, including casper, greg and wolfie.

the mike pointed out that casper would be moving with me, then i logged in and players had started to move.

the reasons why i left were;

1. participation levels in the STL war. (if we had taken the villa's wolfie had agreed it would have cut TR, splitting k61 from the k42 base) this would have allowed us not to be boxed in and still have a part in the alliance, the rate we wre going would have left us completly box in with 2 options, war with knk or TR, if we went to war with knk we would have been vunerable to attacks from TR.

2. The constant moaning about TR in the forums, they were our only real ally's, there were others but they could not really do anything because of size or position. we never really gave the alliance a chance because we were to scared incase the double crossed us, well so what if they did at least we would have given it a try.

3. thought the grass would be greener....

4. There were about 9 council members, 5 in swarm 4 in swarm., then in the space of a week 1 in swarm 4 in swarm., tried to move the tribe into one tribe, which was not a ploy to get rid of Peter like Omega has been spouting.... I even forwarded Peter the discusions myself and casper had about moving into one tribe, pete claimed that he had only missed one day of TW in this world and that was the same day we decided to move into one tribe.

5. thought that swarm was going no where especially after you and ade left,


I did had over the accounts i was sitting rather than take them to TR, one was Ade's after you gave it me. could have moved him to TR aswell.

 

[DeletedUser]

Some more stats for your dissection

RC answer my PM about whether you have skype dammit

Side 1:
Tribes: TR TR. TR.. KnK
Players:

Side 2:
Tribes: SWARM.
Players:

Timeframe: 26/02/2010 20:00:00 to 11/03/2010 21:12:30

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 487
Side 2: 95
Difference: 392

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 3,599,712
Side 2: 686,789
Difference: 2,912,923

Yes I did just post all that to poke RC about my PM. So What?

 

[DeletedUser]

Thos are some juicy stats bob.

And your poke was wasted, as I have already added you on Skype, and are waiting for you to accept!

 

[DeletedUser]

Thos are some juicy stats bob.

And your poke was wasted, as I have already added you on Skype, and are waiting for you to accept!

Wah I don't see where!!!

/Off Topic

 

[DeletedUser]

Well there's one spy found.

Pete told me how they worked it out. Nicely done mate.

If I was SWARM I'd imagine there might be one or two more.

 

[DeletedUser]

We at SWARM. all know why your account was banned Rc
multi accounting

from our forums
"Just to let everyone know that we have identified one spy in Swarm!

bigshotbob was actually being account sat by Rc1207 of TR, who was also sitting Meado of ODA. It would appear that all 3 accounts have now been frozen/locked."

so everyone this is how TR operate then

I am sure he did not sit them. Otherwise, when I claimed a vill and was in the process of taking it he would have moved the troops out.

 

[DeletedUser]

Saw a message from Kilroy quoted on the TR chat on skype which backs up what RC has said TBH...

Night all

 

[DeletedUser]

Saw a message from Kilroy quoted on the TR chat on skype which backs up what RC has said TBH...

Night all

Meado isn't played by Rc1207 (Matt), its played by his older brother (Sev). The original Meado quit her account in either November or December, and it was given to Sev in full knowledge of his relations with a TR member (who my tribe was at war with at the time). I know both of them, and rather from Meado (Sev) likely spying for Rc (Matt), they have a healthy sibling rivalry.

That's the truth of it. Meado and Rc1207 are played by two different people, and there is no breach of the rules in this circumstance.

Kilroy

 

[DeletedUser]

And we both have our accounts back

Meado (Sev)'s girlfriend will have to wait till she is back from her work, but given SWARMs inevitable reaction to this revelation, I am skeptical as to whether she will want her account back.

/off topic.

Back to the war discussion now I am thinking.

 

[DeletedUser]

I first approach Rc to discuss the STL war and to check up how much our diplomats had contact with TR, this was near the start of the war. from this we spoke about a few things, mainly about RL compared to TW. few weeks later got discussing Olo and nelly, admittedly i wanted Olo to join, but i did not know at the time why he got kicked and that TR would moan so much.

Then started talking about joining what rules i would have to follow position in the tribe etc... Then one night on msn speaking to LL Rc etc agreed to move. At the time i honestly thought i was the only one moving and was preparing for the back lash from everyone in swarm, including casper, greg and wolfie.

the mike pointed out that casper would be moving with me, then i logged in and players had started to move.

the reasons why i left were;

1. participation levels in the STL war. (if we had taken the villa's wolfie had agreed it would have cut TR, splitting k61 from the k42 base) this would have allowed us not to be boxed in and still have a part in the alliance, the rate we wre going would have left us completly box in with 2 options, war with knk or TR, if we went to war with knk we would have been vunerable to attacks from TR.

2. The constant moaning about TR in the forums, they were our only real ally's, there were others but they could not really do anything because of size or position. we never really gave the alliance a chance because we were to scared incase the double crossed us, well so what if they did at least we would have given it a try.

3. thought the grass would be greener....

4. There were about 9 council members, 5 in swarm 4 in swarm., then in the space of a week 1 in swarm 4 in swarm., tried to move the tribe into one tribe, which was not a ploy to get rid of Peter like Omega has been spouting.... I even forwarded Peter the discusions myself and casper had about moving into one tribe, pete claimed that he had only missed one day of TW in this world and that was the same day we decided to move into one tribe.

5. thought that swarm was going no where especially after you and ade left,


I did had over the accounts i was sitting rather than take them to TR, one was Ade's after you gave it me. could have moved him to TR aswell.

Dickie you were fully aware of why i was kicked from TR (typo error, highlighted by RC) - (reasons published on this forum and sent to you direct via email) - Given what you said in those emails prior to me joining SWARM, i was disapointed you jumped. Your reasoning for leaving SWARM as pointed out in point 2 differs from your IGM's to me.... I could of course publish these emails.... but that serves no purpose. I wish you the best of luck

 

[DeletedUser]

As for the war stats.... Im pretty pleased with us. Taking on a tribe family and KNK then having nobled 1 for every 5 they noble. Great effort. With the troops at TR's disposal id have expected a lot worse. Keep up the good work SWARM

 

[DeletedUser]

Dickie you were fully aware of why i was kicked from SWARM - (reasons published on this forum and sent to you direct via email) - Given what you said in those emails prior to me joining SWARM, i was disapointed you jumped. Your reasoning for leaving SWARM as pointed out in point 2 differs from your IGM's to me.... I could of course publish these emails.... but that serves no purpose. I wish you the best of luck

You were never kicked from SWARM - that is why this war started.


And you won't publish those mails as they will prove nothing Olo! Go on, put them up. I dare you. They will do nothing for your cause.

 

[DeletedUser]

And we both have our accounts back

Meado (Sev)'s girlfriend will have to wait till she is back from her work, but given SWARMs inevitable reaction to this revelation, I am skeptical as to whether she will want her account back.

/off topic.

Back to the war discussion now I am thinking.

Glad to hear you are back. If you weren't breaking rules it's only fair.

However......

Now why does the name Meado ring a bell?
Oh, that's right weeks back when Payner told us the name of who was providing him with his info after he was kicked from SWARM I confronted Meado (the name Payner had provided to casperbart) about the allegations.
She cried to you and you mailed me. You assured me that she would pass on no more messages from SWARM's spy to Payner. Also you said you didn't know who SWARM's spy was.
Now if she was your Brothers GF I don't believe that she didn't tell you that bigshotbob was the spy. In fact since you are clearly mentioned on his profile as his PA then it makes logical sense that you embeded him in SWARM to spy.

Funny how you did that at a time of peace and alliance between both tribes.

Yet again proof of the lack of respect TR show your allies.

 

[DeletedUser]

Glad to hear you are back. If you weren't breaking rules it's only fair.

However......

Now why does the name Meado ring a bell?
Oh, that's right weeks back when Payner told us the name of who was providing him with his info after he was kicked from SWARM I confronted Meado (the name Payner had provided to casperbart) about the allegations.
She cried to you and you mailed me. You assured me that she would pass on no more messages from SWARM's spy to Payner. Also you said you didn't know who SWARM's spy was.
Now if she was your Brothers GF I don't believe that she didn't tell you that bigshotbob was the spy. In fact since you are clearly mentioned on his profile as his PA then it makes logical sense that you embeded him in SWARM to spy.

Funny how you did that at a time of peace and alliance between both tribes.

Yet again proof of the lack of respect TR show your allies.

The original Bob hated SWARM - he saw his tribe decimated by them, and he cried again and again for war against yous from us, and each time we said no. But I did mentor him, as it said on his profile. And he was my mentos untill he left, and the account was given to my brothers gf.

And yes, I did not know she was the spy. I strongly suspected it, but I wasn't exactly going to sell her out over suspicions was I shane? What if I had been wrong? However strong the circumstancial evidence was, I could hardly throw my brothers gf to the wolves without proof.

And if the bob account was used to spy, then why did we have Jadjadjad try to noble it, and Wolverines wife attack it before leaving? Surely if it was of such value to us, we would have left it out of the war. But it wasn't of value to us, it was simply an account who I had a friendship with the owner of.

 

[DeletedUser]

You were never kicked from SWARM - that is why this war started.


And you won't publish those mails as they will prove nothing Olo! Go on, put them up. I dare you. They will do nothing for your cause.

You are quite correct on both accounts... i wasnt kicked from SWARM (typo error lol) and i wont be publishing Dickie's emails. I have merely expressed my disapointment and surprise at his decision to jump, given what he said privately. People have the right to change their thoughts and minds of course ....

 

[DeletedUser]

update anyone ?:lol:

 

[DeletedUser]

Side 1:
Tribes: SWARM
Players:
Side 2:
Tribes: TR TR. TR.. KnK
Players:
Timeframe: 26/02/2010 20:00:00 to 19/03/2010 21:18:40
Total conquers:
Side 1: 326
Side 2: 2,073
Difference: 1,747

Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 107
Side 2: 740
Difference: 633

Points value of total conquers:
Side 1: 1,432,969
Side 2: 14,119,013
Difference: 12,686,044

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 777,000
Side 2: 5,553,582
Difference: 4,776,582

 

[DeletedUser6603]

I quite like this one, weve had a busy day, nothing like a coordinated hit!

Side 1:
Tribes: KnK
Players:

Side 2:
Tribes: SWARM
Players:

Timeframe: 19/03/2010 00:00:00 to 19/03/2010 22:25:21

Total conquers:

Side 1: 40
Side 2: 11
Difference: 29

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 36
Side 2: 2
Difference: 34

Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 343,941
Side 2: 43,444
Difference: 300,497

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 323,377
Side 2: 18,972
Difference: 304,405

 

[DeletedUser]

Very nice.