DeletedUser
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internaling in the last week: W1N 435-341 LRAG
DeletedUser
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look at the stats for the last week and you will see they make grim reading for LRAG.
which makes it even worse if W1N can afford to use up 435 nobles on internals.
which makes it even worse if W1N can afford to use up 435 nobles on internals.
DeletedUser
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And still we plough through them.
DeletedUser1942
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The problem for LRAG is that all they are doing is internalling - there is a distinct lack of effort from them at defending and attacking, the tribe is incapable of putting up a proper fight against W1N.
W1N on the other hand, are able to smash through LRAG, whilst also mopping up the internals that needs to be dealt with. W1N internalling does not effect our war effort - LRAG internalling does.
Also,(i dont know if your in LRAG yet), the "you're bigger than us" phrase wont work. We may have size - but we also have something far more important, W1Ns members have the WILLINGNESS to war - and are not sat behind computer screens waiting for the next internal to come along.
Now, do you have your account in LRAG yet???? Surely this much brown nosing to them would allow you a place :lol:
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DeletedUser
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its 6-0 to w1n in conquers vs you, that is forever, doesn't look good does it?
DeletedUser
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Yes but at least he and the other LRAG players have the cahones to fight w1n.
Unlike young stutzy and his UFA tribemates that bottled it when it looked like their time was coming, not sure why he is always so disappointed with the competition when he ran away from the opportunity to really test himself.
Still things could be worse, W1N have W1 in the bag, should be pleased that at least a few players are still fighting back, as to be honest most are wasting their time as there is no hope of beating W1N and lets be honest, its going to be death by thousand cuts, players will have more fun starting on other worlds.
DeletedUser5774
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What LRAG are you refering too? The LRAG players that were ex ORC, who were left singled out by W1N after they merged into LRAG and thus, leaving very little defense, left them vulnerable. Hence why the stats are in your favour. That does the same for the ex AK. Whilst these ex ORC and AK members are in capable of even mounting a proper defense, the core of LRAG, which is now frontlines to W1N, can.
Before you do point out that it was LRAG fault for merging ORC and AK members, my point is that fact that these players from ORC and AK had their morale cut to pieces by the loss of war from their previous tribe, were decimated by W1N ops from those previous wars and were unable to get defended properly in time to launch a proper defense.
My point is that the core of original LRAG still and might be able to launch a proper defensive, and even a fight, which I would like to contribute too.
Again, I ask you; The original LRAG core, or the ex ORC and AK members? At this moment in time, the LRAG core internaling does is not affected by the internaling they're doing - The strategy I see by doing this is mounting up stacked villages, to be able to pump out more troops, to mount a last defensive line against W1N. Nothing wrong with that.
However, for an ex ORC or AK member internaling, it would severely harm their chances of fighting against W1N. But maybe that isn't the point anymore. Perhaps these LRAG players are trying to join up in the last line of defense to survive and help or just to simply survive in the area. Whilst surviving the area by internaling or nobling barbarians, to me, might some fruitless, pitiful and only prolongs the inevitable, I can understand why they would do that.
Please, do keep in mind that my points are split in two categories: The core LRAG players, and then the ex ORC/AK ones.
It does seem to me your point of internal nobling is on basis that LRAG does not wish to war W1N. Can I ask... have you had an attack from an LRAG player yourself? Of course you have. Whilst my above posts indicate my reasoning and perspective on internaling on LRAG, which is probably a lot more closer to the truth than your ignorant posting that simply spells, metaphorically speaking, 'LRAG SUCK LULZ'. I won't repeat myself on the subject of internal nobling - I have already stated my reasoning above.
In regards to the 'you're bigger than us' argument that I proposed, I think it does stand, in my personal opinion. You are bigger than LRAG, which means you have the ability to launch several more OPs than they can, several more nukes than they can, and have several more players to attack with together than they can. That gives you significant advantage. I can also say that I doubt anyone has the skill needed to defend in vast quantities everyday due to a number of factors. The fact is W1N had, and still has, a significant advantage over LRAG, which has won you the war. I say 'won you the war' in the case that it is inevitable that LRAG will eventually fall, but the battle isn't over, and there is still the possiblity of an upset from the core LRAG to do on W1N, esp now that LRAG's core is frontline, giving them a meatshield of villages for W1N that you still have to plow through.
No, I do not have an account in LRAG yet. Do you think you could contact the active members of the tribe to allow me to speak with? Then I can simply help in causing an upset I still think possible.
As for brown nosing... on the contray, I think LRAG is a weak tribe, and has been blown wide open and shown it's weakness. I am not brown nosing them, I refuting your arguments with my own for the sake of it, because I enjoy the PnP aspect of this game. Implying that I'd metaphorically brown nose them to try and get an account is ludicirious considering a smart leader of LRAG would accept anyone who can play the game to help in the final battle.
Oh, and as an extra point, you do still have 153m points to consume from LRAG before they're finally defeated. That will take you until the end of this year and... if I have anything to do with it, I think I am going to attempt to cause an upset to all of you.
DeletedUser1942
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HALLELUYAH!!!!!!
Something to reply to in this forum - be rude not to have a go
So, to Kutusov
Which is 1400+ less than W1N have taken
Pathetic. With the number 1 tribe bearing down on your tribe mates, you sitting there in the ivory tower next to Taff baby barb nobling isnt helping them at all.
Join the club mate. We all have more important things to do. With "lazy" players like you in the tribe - im afraid LRAG are even more doomed to fail lol
Not really true Kutusov - Id say 75% of the tribe dont contribute to the war effort, the other 25% are only involved because they have to be as there frontlines with W1N.
To BattleAxe
At the time, we made the correct decision. The rubbish we left behind(bar a few i must admit) were taken easily while the rest of us prospered.
Players like myself, Reef, Filmking007, Simwhit, Kenza, Ballo, Andyh370, Gappy - all made up the western Squad, and ALL have HUGE noble gains against any enemy we have come across. This is despite admittedly not being the most skillful of players - but by having the W1N mentality, and attacking the enemy whenever, wherever.
If LRAG were able to work aswell as we have over the past year or so, they'd have a very good chance of doing something to hinder W1N, im sure of it.
At Clamju/Sexy Smurf/
Just goes to show that LRAGs recruitment strategy is awful. If they are happy to recruit players already getting a towsing - then more fool them. In the meantime, W1N will take whatever LRAG member we have on the frontlines - and move forward to the core players.
Exactly the same as we did with ORC - which led to them crumbling.
Its all well and good being able to do it - its actually another thing putting it into practise.
Since the war started i have recieved approximately 20 nukes in total, plus 7 nobles trying to retake villages. You've kind of made me back up my point about LRAG not trying to be honest
Again, the players with power in LRAG/original members will find themselves on the frontline, with none of the minions available to back them up. When they had the chance to help there more insignificant members war us, they didnt take it - now however they have to face there frontline while all the time there resources are decreasing.
Shame. Speak to Kutusov, he may be able to offer you a co-playing chance, due to him being so busy
You will not be able to have much of a say in this war - 1 member is not going to become the messiah and save the whole of LRAG
Anyway, think i answered enough - Thank you for giving me something to reply to
Something to reply to in this forum - be rude not to have a go
So, to Kutusov
Which is 1400+ less than W1N have taken
Pathetic. With the number 1 tribe bearing down on your tribe mates, you sitting there in the ivory tower next to Taff baby barb nobling isnt helping them at all.
Join the club mate. We all have more important things to do. With "lazy" players like you in the tribe - im afraid LRAG are even more doomed to fail lol
Not really true Kutusov - Id say 75% of the tribe dont contribute to the war effort, the other 25% are only involved because they have to be as there frontlines with W1N.
To BattleAxe
At the time, we made the correct decision. The rubbish we left behind(bar a few i must admit) were taken easily while the rest of us prospered.
Players like myself, Reef, Filmking007, Simwhit, Kenza, Ballo, Andyh370, Gappy - all made up the western Squad, and ALL have HUGE noble gains against any enemy we have come across. This is despite admittedly not being the most skillful of players - but by having the W1N mentality, and attacking the enemy whenever, wherever.
If LRAG were able to work aswell as we have over the past year or so, they'd have a very good chance of doing something to hinder W1N, im sure of it.
At Clamju/Sexy Smurf/
Just goes to show that LRAGs recruitment strategy is awful. If they are happy to recruit players already getting a towsing - then more fool them. In the meantime, W1N will take whatever LRAG member we have on the frontlines - and move forward to the core players.
Exactly the same as we did with ORC - which led to them crumbling.
Its all well and good being able to do it - its actually another thing putting it into practise.
Since the war started i have recieved approximately 20 nukes in total, plus 7 nobles trying to retake villages. You've kind of made me back up my point about LRAG not trying to be honest
Again, the players with power in LRAG/original members will find themselves on the frontline, with none of the minions available to back them up. When they had the chance to help there more insignificant members war us, they didnt take it - now however they have to face there frontline while all the time there resources are decreasing.
Shame. Speak to Kutusov, he may be able to offer you a co-playing chance, due to him being so busy
You will not be able to have much of a say in this war - 1 member is not going to become the messiah and save the whole of LRAG
Anyway, think i answered enough - Thank you for giving me something to reply to
DeletedUser5774
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It remains to be seen if you can noble up LRAG core players as easily as you can the ex ORC and AK members you were already in the middle of taking out. By the way, my argument for the fact that they are ex ORC and AK isn't me taking away your victories over both of them tribes. It doesn't excuse that those players and tribes lost to you.
As for LRAG's recruitment strategy, I can only think up of two reasons as to why they were recruited:
Metashields/distractions for you to eat up in the meantime whilst they prepared themselves for a final defense in their core area by internal nobling/eating barbarians.
Or poor leadership/recruitment decisions based that OMG LOOK AT THOSE POINTS :icon_surprised:
As for LRAG's recruitment strategy, I can only think up of two reasons as to why they were recruited:
Metashields/distractions for you to eat up in the meantime whilst they prepared themselves for a final defense in their core area by internal nobling/eating barbarians.
Or poor leadership/recruitment decisions based that OMG LOOK AT THOSE POINTS :icon_surprised:
DeletedUser1942
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Id have to agree that it is very likely in my opinion that both of these points could be true.
We shall await to see the final defense of there core though.
DeletedUser717
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See, that's the whole point. If your strategy is "prepare for a final defense" -- if you even think this is a viable strategy -- then you've already lost. It's what ORC was all about and why they failed (even if it took longer than W1N hoped at first).
Attack and conquer is the only successful strategy.
DeletedUser2918
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^^^ this x 1 million
i guess it all comes down to how you want to play the game. For me the internals are a nasty necessity only. If you've got to the stage where you need them to prop up your account then the game is lost. I really cant see the purpose in doing a rearguard action in TW. All that time wasted when you could start on another world.....
it may not be 'easy' to noble up the LRAG core but at the way things are happening it is only a matter of time imo.
i guess it all comes down to how you want to play the game. For me the internals are a nasty necessity only. If you've got to the stage where you need them to prop up your account then the game is lost. I really cant see the purpose in doing a rearguard action in TW. All that time wasted when you could start on another world.....
it may not be 'easy' to noble up the LRAG core but at the way things are happening it is only a matter of time imo.
DeletedUser
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When LRAG's leader and biggest players are losing their Nukes not through attacking, but through them being found at home, unused....
When you can attack and attack and barely get a response (Credit to LancaLittle - he has responded with nukes when attacked)....
When the tribe is given a gagging order and anyone who tries to get the to become involved with the extended community of UK1 is called petty and childish names instead of refuted in a constructive method, or - heaven forbid - their invite to return to the wider community is taken up....
I've been on that side, and I've seen how it was being run. I've seen words being used as opposed to action. I've seen players not given support so it could be sent to places it was not necessary. I've seen the hypocracy as leadership says one thing publically, but practices the opposite privately. I agree that it's more satisfying to have a good opponent than to have all those on one side. But it's also important to work with people who will do things.
When you can attack and attack and barely get a response (Credit to LancaLittle - he has responded with nukes when attacked)....
When the tribe is given a gagging order and anyone who tries to get the to become involved with the extended community of UK1 is called petty and childish names instead of refuted in a constructive method, or - heaven forbid - their invite to return to the wider community is taken up....
I've been on that side, and I've seen how it was being run. I've seen words being used as opposed to action. I've seen players not given support so it could be sent to places it was not necessary. I've seen the hypocracy as leadership says one thing publically, but practices the opposite privately. I agree that it's more satisfying to have a good opponent than to have all those on one side. But it's also important to work with people who will do things.
DeletedUser1942
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Truth hurts doesnt it Kutusov.
Like the rest of LRAG and all the ORCs before them - cower away from the truth thats being thrown around in here
DeletedUser5774
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It is simple, ORC, when they resorted to that strategy, did it wrong. LRAG, however, have yet to use it, and so, yet to be proven if they're as bad as ORC are in using the 'final defense' strategy.
DeletedUser1942
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Its true that ORC were truly awful - but the similarities that LRAG show is uncanny.
Let's start from the top -
1 - Both tribes recruited the cast offs from a failing tribe, with members being battered by W1N.
2 - Both tribes pretty much gave up attacking, and were forced to defend to survive against W1N
3 - Both tribes support systems have failed. No support is getting to the areas that genuinely need it, its stuck with core members, and players who have been present in the tribe longer.
4 - Both tribes resorted to internalling as there key focus to maintain large accounts.
5 - Both tribes started off against W1N very gobby, and making false claims about where the war would go.
6 - Both tribes started to recieve an almighty kicking, which lasted for a pro-longed period.(LRAGs continues)
7 - Both leaderships did/do nothing to aid the tribe. Its one thing telling players how to play, its another to do it themselves.
The above is just a few similarities. Shows how LRAG are on the same path as the ORCs.
Also, interesting how Kutusov deleted his reply :lol:
DeletedUser8534
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The facts are 'Turtling' up never wins and why would you want to just defend all the time anyway???
DeletedUser
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I'm back - you miss me?
Stutz, how about you shut it you ego-high noobert :lol:
Stutz, how about you shut it you ego-high noobert :lol:
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DeletedUser1942
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Oh look, King spear nuke(but i dont do it anymore so am a brilliant player) is back. :lol:
What accounts you ruining now Stevie? :icon_rolleyes:
No need to shut it - unless i get proved wrong :icon_cool:
DeletedUser
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Oh so you used to spear nuke? How precious :icon_biggrin:
And erm, i haven't sent a spear nuke in a year
I belive, now you can shut it
Been on davva for 3 months, lost 1 village to w1n
And yet have received attack from various players. If you notice, haven't lost any points since i got on davva :icon_surprised:
Maybe you could shut your ego a bit because believe me, nobody wants to hear it! :icon_rolleyes:
