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Tribes and their problems
So I am not really writing a guide, more a collection of thoughts, very poorly placed together, as I made this topic by mistake and just decided to use the thread, since apparently I can switch the title around of the thread which is cool. So Im gonna discuss this apparently bare with me made this thread by accident and am just deciding to use it.
So there seems to be this total lack of tribal cohesion, and idea that the players should function in entire isolation for each other, in fact at times in opposition to each other. The idea that having personal growth stunted is the worst of possible outcomes.
Within my time in the worlds I have played I have seen some of the better players in the game get into literal fights about villages that two people planned on taking. I have seen fights about having recruits only noble in specific K's forcing members to chose where they noble as to not offend the existing members of a tribe.
Now all these things serve to do a few things. The need for personal growth causes friction, creating a divide between players. I think it stems from this culture that too many people now identify themselves through what their rank is, I too am guilty of this. We place such emphasis on the individual success as a community a great player is a top ranked player, but is that really what constitutes a great player. Is the best fighter in the game working removed, or in limited fashion with his tribe worth a player that is decent and works with and for his tribe. it is almost seen as a flaw in the player themselves if they fail at the initial stages of a game, even when no help is offered as a tribe. Help that would slow down the players offering most likely leads to this, for the first few stages we look inwards trying to optimize everything and well throwing our troops around like this is outside our plan it alters what we have to do it makes for a less effective start than we wanted.
At least in every single tribe I have ever been there is always a drought of players to help with the needs of sitting. There is this need to avoid work load, that sitting is some sort of an extra, a duty which should not be required of members to do. Now I understand this thought, but I only understand it from the other aspect, after having sat so many people for the tribe because no-one else would volunteer, it creates a disjunction, a work load increase on the few that are willing to help others and if everyone was willing to help the burden would never be too great for the workload would be spread between many people.
Perhaps all of this stems from the culture, but I doubt it the majority of players out there seem to be selfish, they play for themselves this was a problem that I have encountered since day one of playing this game. People that look for a tribe in name a mere banner to fly their name under instead of an actual tribe.
And I think this will continue until the leaders step up, until the leaders say, you know what no matter how good it looks to have these players within my tribe having players that will work with me is more important than anything else. The realization that for a real tribe that works together people need to learn to use the dismiss option.
And it may seem as though I have someone in specific in mind, but I don't I write this in general, in fact within my own thoughts in the past there have been a few tribes that I should have been kicked out for for failure to preform as I should have been.
Well thats my thoughts ignore me if you wish
So I am not really writing a guide, more a collection of thoughts, very poorly placed together, as I made this topic by mistake and just decided to use the thread, since apparently I can switch the title around of the thread which is cool. So Im gonna discuss this apparently bare with me made this thread by accident and am just deciding to use it.
So there seems to be this total lack of tribal cohesion, and idea that the players should function in entire isolation for each other, in fact at times in opposition to each other. The idea that having personal growth stunted is the worst of possible outcomes.
Within my time in the worlds I have played I have seen some of the better players in the game get into literal fights about villages that two people planned on taking. I have seen fights about having recruits only noble in specific K's forcing members to chose where they noble as to not offend the existing members of a tribe.
Now all these things serve to do a few things. The need for personal growth causes friction, creating a divide between players. I think it stems from this culture that too many people now identify themselves through what their rank is, I too am guilty of this. We place such emphasis on the individual success as a community a great player is a top ranked player, but is that really what constitutes a great player. Is the best fighter in the game working removed, or in limited fashion with his tribe worth a player that is decent and works with and for his tribe. it is almost seen as a flaw in the player themselves if they fail at the initial stages of a game, even when no help is offered as a tribe. Help that would slow down the players offering most likely leads to this, for the first few stages we look inwards trying to optimize everything and well throwing our troops around like this is outside our plan it alters what we have to do it makes for a less effective start than we wanted.
At least in every single tribe I have ever been there is always a drought of players to help with the needs of sitting. There is this need to avoid work load, that sitting is some sort of an extra, a duty which should not be required of members to do. Now I understand this thought, but I only understand it from the other aspect, after having sat so many people for the tribe because no-one else would volunteer, it creates a disjunction, a work load increase on the few that are willing to help others and if everyone was willing to help the burden would never be too great for the workload would be spread between many people.
Perhaps all of this stems from the culture, but I doubt it the majority of players out there seem to be selfish, they play for themselves this was a problem that I have encountered since day one of playing this game. People that look for a tribe in name a mere banner to fly their name under instead of an actual tribe.
And I think this will continue until the leaders step up, until the leaders say, you know what no matter how good it looks to have these players within my tribe having players that will work with me is more important than anything else. The realization that for a real tribe that works together people need to learn to use the dismiss option.
And it may seem as though I have someone in specific in mind, but I don't I write this in general, in fact within my own thoughts in the past there have been a few tribes that I should have been kicked out for for failure to preform as I should have been.
Well thats my thoughts ignore me if you wish
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