UK9 Interview Discussion Thread

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DeletedUser

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Very good read, awaiting more interviews eagerly
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DeletedUser282

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Run the numbers, a properly built, high LC nuke is just as offensively capable as a higher axe nuke

If you run the numbers properly you'll find that against the common, defences (8k spear 2k HC or 10k spear 10k sword) the higher the proportion of axe, the more damage caused.

Assuming all level 3 techs, and level 20 wall. 20000 Population for both sides. 213 rams in all nukes.

Attacker Units: 0 0 5935 0 3250 0 213 0 0 20.000
Losses: 0 0 5935 0 3250 0 213 0 0 20.000
Defender Units: 8000 0 0 0 0 2000 0 0 0 20.000
Losses: 6633 0 0 0 0 1658 0 0 0 16.581
Damage by rams: The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 20 to level 9


Attacker Units: 0 0 7935 0 2750 0 213 0 0 20.000
Losses: 0 0 7935 0 2750 0 213 0 0 20.000
Defender Units: 8000 0 0 0 0 2000 0 0 0 20.000
Losses: 6860 0 0 0 0 1715 0 0 0 17.150
Damage by rams: The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 20 to level 9


Attacker Units: 0 0 18935 0 0 0 213 0 0 20.000
Losses: 0 0 18575 0 0 0 209 0 0 19.620
Defender Units: 8000 0 0 0 0 2000 0 0 0 20.000
Losses: 8000 0 0 0 0 2000 0 0 0 20.000
Damage by rams: The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 20 to level 6

Attacker Units: 0 0 5935 0 3250 0 213 0 0 20.000
Losses: 0 0 5935 0 3250 0 213 0 0 20.000
Defender Units: 10000 10000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 20.000
Losses: 5521 5521 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 11.042
Damage by rams: The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 20 to level 13


Attacker Units: 0 0 7935 0 2750 0 213 0 0 20.000
Losses: 0 0 7935 0 2750 0 213 0 0 20.000
Defender Units: 10000 10000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 20.000
Losses: 5781 5781 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 11.562
Damage by rams: The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 20 to level 12


Attacker Units: 0 0 18935 0 0 0 213 0 0 20.000
Losses: 0 0 18935 0 0 0 213 0 0 20.000
Defender Units: 10000 10000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 20.000
Losses: 7295 7295 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 14.590
Damage by rams: The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 20 to level 10

It is important to note that I am not arguing that pure axe nukes are in any way viable, nor am I saying that I believe anything other than the fastest nuke build is the best nuke build on this world. I'm simply presenting the numbers.

Also, on a more on topic note.
Nice interview BT, looking forward to more of them.
 

DeletedUser

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I'll hopefully have another done for tomorrow or the day after.
 

Deleted User - 695343

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If you run the numbers properly you'll find that against the common, defences (8k spear 2k HC or 10k spear 10k sword) the higher the proportion of axe, the more damage caused.

Assuming all level 3 techs, and level 20 wall. 20000 Population for both sides. 213 rams in all nukes.



It is important to note that I am not arguing that pure axe nukes are in any way viable, nor am I saying that I believe anything other than the fastest nuke build is the best nuke build on this world. I'm simply presenting the numbers.

Your LC nuke is yucky and wrong. :icon_razz: Needs better build balance with a few more axes. My nuke (6550, 3240, 220*) vs. the 10k/10k scenario kills more (11.660) than both your high LC and 7k axe nuke, as it does against the 8k/2k (17.462) and I don't think there's much point in discussing the full axe nuke given the preposterous build time on this, or arguably any normal speed world!

*219 would be fine, but I like even numbers. :icon_redface:
 
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DeletedUser282

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Your LC nuke is yucky and wrong. :icon_razz: Needs better build balance with a few more axes. My nuke (6550, 3240, 220*) vs. the 10k/10k scenario kills more (11.660) than both your high LC and 7k axe nuke, as it does against the 8k/2k (17.462) and I don't think there's much point in discussing the full axe nuke given the preposterous build time on this, or arguably any normal speed world!

*219 would be fine, but I like even numbers. :icon_redface:

Did you not read my post properly? I gave the attacker 20,000 population for balance, your nuke has 610 population more. Of course it would kill more, I would have thought that that should be blatantly obvious.
I went for a range, showing that as the proportion of axe increased, the damage caused increased. I was not arguing that any of those nukes were best.

I also prefer 213 ram nukes, especially for those examples, given that I was only showing 1 hit, any more rams doesn't help.

However, for the purposes of this, I shall switch to the amount of population you use, and 220 ram nukes.

Attacker Units: 0 0 6550 0 3240 0 220 0 0 20.610
Losses: 0 0 6550 0 3240 0 220 0 0 20.610
Defender Units: 10000 10000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 20.000
Losses: 5831 5831 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 11.662
Damage by rams: The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 20 to level 12


Attacker Units: 0 0 7002 0 3127 0 220 0 0 20.610
Losses: 0 0 7002 0 3127 0 220 0 0 20.610
Defender Units: 10000 10000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 20.000
Losses: 5891 5891 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 11.782
Damage by rams: The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 20 to level 12


Attacker Units: 0 0 6550 0 3240 0 220 0 0 20.610
Losses: 0 0 6550 0 3240 0 220 0 0 20.610
Defender Units: 8000 0 0 0 0 2000 0 0 0 20.000
Losses: 6987 0 0 0 0 1747 0 0 0 17.469
Damage by rams: The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 20 to level 8


Attacker Units: 0 0 7002 0 3127 0 220 0 0 20.610
Losses: 0 0 7002 0 3127 0 220 0 0 20.610
Defender Units: 8000 0 0 0 0 2000 0 0 0 20.000
Losses: 7040 0 0 0 0 1760 0 0 0 17.600
Damage by rams: The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 20 to level 8

As I said, the higher proportion of axes in a nuke against common defences, the higher the damage caused.

And, BT, try and make it today rather than tomorrow. Tomorrow is so far away :(
 

DeletedUser

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build speed>attack strength imo. moreso on a world like this.

I usually go for ~3300Lc nukes with ~6500axe and 220 rams this gives the shortest build time with max buildings.
 

DeletedUser

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Cool.

I know it's a faff but could you italicise your own words just so it's a bit clearer who's talking? It would keep the flow better I think. True, it has the name beforehand, but I am a very lazy person and don't want to move my eyes that far to the left each line.
 

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[20:34:56] Martin C:: I've read the rules again recently
[20:35:02] Martin C:: and I'm pretty sure they are near enough exactly the same as .net's
[20:35:38] Martin C:: however there seems to be slight differences in the interpretations of them

[20:36:22] Wayne - WeekendWarrior: I think thats down to the differences in the American and UK culture and the use of certain words and phrases varies across the pond.

.us is American.

.net is English + American (Or you could say anyone that speaks the English language). Or am I wrong?
 

DeletedUser

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.de is german. .net is universal in english, so the interviewee has a point: nothing is so hated in our culture as someone volunteering their time for the good of the community.
 

Deleted User - 695343

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Nice interview with Judge. I would love UK to actually designate a language difference of sorts. Many words that are part of the UK vernacular are offensive to Americans but should be allowed here. I am still reeling from the fact that I was asked to change a post that said "BS" when in actuality the fully written out word would not be offensive to the majority of British Isles residents. Some consistency and guidelines would be nice. :icon_wink:
 

DeletedUser

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Nice interview with Judge. I would love UK to actually designate a language difference of sorts. Many words that are part of the UK vernacular are offensive to Americans but should be allowed here. I am still reeling from the fact that I was asked to change a post that said "BS" when in actuality the fully written out word would not be offensive to the majority of British Isles residents. Some consistency and guidelines would be nice. :icon_wink:



I can remember a world 4 premade that had to change it name because FRICK! is offensive in america ... i'm not sure it was world 4, i'm pretty sure it was frick ... i only know i was part of it for some time.
 

DeletedUser9701

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Yes it was frick, pretty sure it was for w4. I got to hand out a pile of those infractions. Ah good times
 
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