World Stats - Weekly update & analysis

Nitrogen

Member
I thought we should separate out the stats now from the K44 Super Noble Highway thread, as the stats cover far more than K44 :)


I'll do a quick recap so far before posting the lastest results.

Week 1. Week to 26th July
Just some stats for you all while i am bored in work, make of them what you will

Side 1:
Tribes: ADDICT, DOGS
Side 2:
Tribes: LoL
Timeframe: Last week
Total conquers:
Side 1: 62
Side 2: 52
Difference: 10

Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 13
Side 2: 21
Difference: 8

Points value of total conquers:
Side 1: 385,924
Side 2: 259,222
Difference: 126,702

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 103,124
Side 2: 128,338
Difference: 25,214



and here are the stats showing all tribes now involved in the war

Side 1:
Tribes: ADDICT, DOGS, FAF
Side 2:
Tribes: LoL, SWTEA
Timeframe: Last week
Total conquers:
Side 1: 120
Side 2: 97
Difference: 23

Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 20
Side 2: 23
Difference: 3

Points value of total conquers:
Side 1: 708,860
Side 2: 477,879
Difference: 230,981

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 152,180
Side 2: 146,141
Difference: 6,039

Week 1 - Full week
I was going to start it next sunday as they had already been posted so recently..

but here they are as of today.

Ive set the start date as the date of the first declaration.

Beginning of the war
on 21.07. at 21:04:20
Duration of war
8 days 12:03:00




If there are any players that should be added to the stats from either side, please let me know and I'll add them where required.

Side 1:
Tribes: LoL, SWTEA
Side 2:
Tribes: DOGS, ADDICT, FAF

Timeframe: 21/07/2012 21:00:00 to 30/07/2012 08:49:51

Total conquers:

Side 1: 137
Side 2: 140
Difference: 3



Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 37
Side 2: 26
Difference: 11



Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 736,297
Side 2: 854,792
Difference: 118,495



Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 245,371
Side 2: 207,333
Difference: 38,038





still early days, still very even, which is the sign of a good ward ahead..

Week 2 - to 6th August
Well, a pretty quiet week as far as successful noble attempts are concerned.

Thats not to say there are not loads of failed attempts happening from either side, so certainly not to be confused with a boring week!

FaF seem to be taking in some Addict / Dogs members, something we were expecting, Addict had a few players leave with the threat of quitting earlier in the week, something had to give, and FaF have a record of recruiting a few bigger players through the world (not a dig, just pointing out what Ive noticed) with less conquers than LoL compared to number of villages owned, still a tactic that can work, and may work out for them...?

As far as the north / south divider goes, this changes nothing of course, so good news there in regards to maintaining constant stats.

Overall, slight gain for the south, very marginal, the last weeks stats speak for themselves in terms of gains..



Side 1:
Tribes: LoL, SWTEA
Side 2:
Tribes: FAF, ADDICT, DOGS

Timeframe: 21/07/2012 00:00:00 to 06/08/2012 08:34:32

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 48
Side 2: 38
Difference: 10



Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 327,278
Side 2: 286,874
Difference: 40,404



Side 1:
Tribes: LoL, SWTEA
Side 2:
Tribes: FAF, ADDICT, DOGS

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 11
Side 2: 11
Difference: 0



Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 81,907
Side 2: 76,418
Difference: 5,489


Week 3 - to 13th August
FaF continue there hugging/ recruiting ways, now the new super family has formed (fail?).

Players are quitting, egos sharing forums,. internals left right and centre..

Time will tell if this tactic will work for the bonfire family.

Ive not included the 8 or 9 villages we took from tigerstripe, simply due to him being gone now, and I couldn't add him on twstats..
If Ive missed other players, or even tribes in the north as they are changing names so often, please let me know!

Side 1:
Tribes: LoL, SWTEA
Side 2:
Tribes: FAF, FAD, FAD2, DOGS
Players: DoctorCrusher

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 18
Side 2: 3
Difference: 15



Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 140,271
Side 2: 13,112
Difference: 127,159

Here's one I prepared earlier including Tigerstripe ;-)

Side 1:
Tribes: LoL, SWTEA
Side 2:
Tribes: FAF, FAD, FAD2, DOGS
Players: DoctorCrusher, Tigerstripe

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 27
Side 2: 3
Difference: 24





Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 211,326
Side 2: 13,112
Difference: 198,214



Perhaps it should be pointed out also, that although LoL & SWTEA gained 24 over the North last week, the North actually nobled 25 more villages in total... just not enemy villages.

To clarify... for the period above, the number of conquers against tribeless members or barbs (excluding Tigerstripe as he is ex Dogs) was as follows:
FAF: 31/66 (47% of non internals)
SWTEA: 9/16 (56% of non internals)
LoL: 8/46 (17% of non internals)
FAD: 5/16 (31% of non internals)
DOGS: 1/5 (20% of non internals)

Week 4 - to 19th August
The next installment..........

Direct Comparison: 13th August -> 19th August

Side 1:
Tribes: LoL, SWTEA
Side 2:
Tribes: FAF, FAD, DOGS

Timeframe: 13/08/2012 00:00:00 to 19/08/2012 23:59:59

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 33
Side 2: 4
Difference: 29



Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 230,437
Side 2: 28,863
Difference: 201,574



Since Declaration: 21st July -> 19th August
Side 1:
Tribes: LoL, SWTEA
Side 2:
Tribes: FAF, FAD, DOGS
Players: Tigerstripe, DoctorCrusher

Timeframe: 21/07/2012 00:00:00 to 19/08/2012 23:59:59

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 90
Side 2: 32
Difference: 58



Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 642,139
Side 2: 223,162
Difference: 418,977



All Conquers: 13th August -> 19th August

Side 1:
Tribes: LoL, SWTEA
Side 2:
Tribes: FAF, FAD, DOGS

Timeframe: 13/08/2012 00:00:00 to 19/08/2012 23:59:59

Total conquers:

Side 1: 118
Side 2: 143
Difference: 25



Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 693,789
Side 2: 578,256
Difference: 115,533




Analysis

So... taking candy from babys may be slightly unethical... but taking villages from the FaF family their Dogs is certainly comparable!

The question remains however.... if we are taking so many villages from the Northern tribes - how are they outgrowing us in their number of conquers, yet the points are slipping? and what does this actually mean?

In the last week - conquers of Tribeless players or Barbs:

Side 1:
Tribes: LoL, SWTEA
Side 2:
Tribes: FAF, FAD, DOGS




LoL/SWTEA nobles of Tribeless or Barbs: 10
FaF/FaD nobles of Tribeless or Barbs: 50

The answer is pretty obvious...

FaF and FaD are nobling barbs
:icon_eek::lol: and not just that.... they're not even quit players... just bog standard barbs...

tsk...!

Week 5 - to 27th August


Weekly update from me again..

Looking forward to some feedback on it all from FaF and co, you guys were quite vocal when we first declared, jump in, tell us you thoughts on whats going on!!

Excuse me if I miss out players that should be added to these stats..

I'm on the useless laptop this evening, might mess about with some other stats for comparison when I'm on the pc (which is 2ft away from me...)


Last week

Side 1:
Tribes: LoL, SWTEA
Side 2:
Tribes: FAF, FAD, DOGS

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 34
Side 2: 4
Difference: 30



Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 255,780
Side 2: 37,165
Difference: 218,615



From declaration date

Side 1:
Tribes: LoL, SWTEA
Side 2:
Tribes: FAF, FAD, DOGS

Timeframe: 21/07/2012 00:00:00 to 27/08/2012 19:29:37

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 118
Side 2: 37
Difference: 81



Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 851,576
Side 2: 267,922
Difference: 583,654



Week 6 - to 3rd September


nice and simple this week from me... as I think the stats say it all!

Side 1:
Tribes: LoL, SWTEA
Side 2:
Tribes: FAF, FAD, DOGS

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers:

Side 1: 141
Side 2: 137
Difference: 4



Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 46
Side 2: 6
Difference: 40



Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 1,002,043
Side 2: 594,077
Difference: 407,966



Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 352,162
Side 2: 54,411
Difference: 297,751


Cheers for the update Mike!


As much as we try to encourage FaF to come and tell us there strategy, they seem to want to keep it all secret, I guess we will have to wait until they have won the world for them to explain how the long game plan of giving everything away and replacing it with barbs worked out for them.


So...

Ill add a little review, and I might be a little biased this time, I've tried not to be in the past, but seeing as FaF don't wish to comment anyway, I guess it wont hurt.


the current war stats..

Weekly stats posted above by mike

As you can see, not only are FaF family getting hammered week after week by the southern alliance, but more interestingly now, it seems they might be running out of easy targets and barbs to much, as, for a change, they haven't nobled more than us in total..

War stats since the beginning are hard to monitor now, ADDICT disbanded, lots of the northern players rimmed etc, so lets just make something up..

South 3 North 0

that'll do, you get the idea.

Overall war stats

This is the in game war stats system, so involves all wars declared in game from the start of the world..

I'm a little concerned about these stats, I know how much hugging LoL and SWTEA have done so far to get to where they are..

Well, lets take a look anyway, I'm sure I can fabricate an excuse for our poor stats.



Oh, it seems LoL and SWTEA are, in fact, the only tribes with positive stats... So how have FaF managed to get to rank 1 and hold it for so long?


Barb munching.. thats how, it would seem.

Bare in mind these stats include internals, I'll happily omit those if anyone can tell me an automated way, rather than counting them all.

FaF 127 barbs 958 gains 13% barbs taken
LOL 37 barbs 875 gains 4% barbs taken
SWTEA 59 barbs 582 gains 10.1% barbs taken (not quite as nice as 1.5%, but still better than FaF lol)
FAD 33 barbs 119 gains 28% barbs taken

Ok, so you could argue that it has worked so far... but long term? I cant recall many guides written explaining how to win the world by nobling everything grey, but I'm no expert.


ODA ODD


lets take a look at who is using there troops, and who is sitting back doing nothing..


ODA


ODD


ODT


Its pretty obvious, those involved in wars will have some sort of OD stats, and those at the top are, certainly those involved in WW12.

Now, considering both LoL and FaF are slightly larger in size compared to the others, you would expect there stats to be slightly higher for ODA, pretty matched is fair to say, so they are using troops, no doubt about it.

When it comes to ODD, it seems clear to me that FaF may have been a little over confident in taking on both LoL and SWTEA from the start of this war (who could blame them though, their alliance was far bigger than ours, on paper they looked like the favorites surely?)

both LoL and SWTEA have a similar number for ODD, FAF being much higher.

now, you could argue that they are having to attack both our tribes, but lets not forger, ADDICT, DOGS, FAD, etc etc..

but how do these stats compare to the war stats?

The north are losing villages to the south every day, so its either all the other tribes hitting LoL and SWTEA, LoL and SWTEA hitting each other just for lolz and ODA bragging rights, or FaF are failing to follow up with tactics and skill as well and just hitting "attack"..

who knows?

FaF do have a couple of isolated players that are constantly active, always "having a go" and playing in the right spirit, with the right attitude, although some very quiet and not reply to spam mail :(

I can only imagine some of them at this point are starting to fell a little disappointed in their tribe mates, the leadership perhaps? or just lack of drive in the majority, commitment, loyalty perhaps?

We all know where LoL originate from, we know where SWARM and TEA come from, there is solid history between them all.

I "think" FaF consists of top players from w3, and world 8?, maybe there are ego clashes? this is all stipulation by me, I don't have the facts, far from impressive to date on w12 thats for sure. (with the exception of 1 or 2 who are at least trying)

I was going to continue with the top players in each tribe, the leadership in each tribe, and various other stats, but to be honest, I'm getting bored now, its the same old pattern.


As always, would be nice to hear from the opposition, I'm sure they have a different view on things.
 

Nitrogen

Member
Week 7 - to 9th September

Side 1:
Tribes: LoL, SWTEA
Side 2:
Tribes: FAF, FAD, DOGS

Timeframe: 03/09/2012 00:00:00 to 09/09/2012 23:59:59

Total conquers:

Side 1: 143
Side 2: 127
Difference: 16



Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 71
Side 2: 5
Difference: 66



Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 1,025,562
Side 2: 619,777
Difference: 405,785



Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 541,955
Side 2: 46,332
Difference: 495,623



I've not posted any analysis of this yet, as I thought someone else might like to have their own comments before I add mine!

Just to point one thing out though.....

Week 1: South 37 - North 26. +11 to South
Week 2: South 48 - North 38. +10 to South
Week 3: South 27 - North 3. +24 to South
Week 4: South 33 - North 4. +29 to South
Week 5: South 34 - North 4. +30 to South
Week 6: South 46 - North 6. +40 to South
Week 7: South 71 - North 5. +66 to South

I kinda like that! lol:icon_razz:
 
Déjà vu?

Side 1:
Tribes: LoL, SWTEA
Side 2:
Tribes: FAD, FAF, DOGS

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers:

Side 1: 153
Side 2: 152
Difference: 1



Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 56
Side 2: 7
Difference: 49



Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 1,068,392
Side 2: 758,154
Difference: 310,238



Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 435,387
Side 2: 52,710
Difference: 382,677



Thats it.. nothing more to say.
 

Grawler

Guest
But but but, FAF are winning their war against barbs.

Something like 6-0 yesterday? That Powermonger over there will lead them to great things.
 

Nitrogen

Member
those pesky barbarians need teaching lessons!!... they once even dared send a spear at everyone during start up!!... next thing, it'll be a whole ram!!!
 

zzdan480zz

Member
I am in FAF, ofc nothing has changed we still dominate (the headlines) Due to how awesome we all are (ummmm well....) Do you now consider yourself updated ?
 

Nitrogen

Member
can't resist any longer....................................... lol

Side 1:
Tribes: LoL, SWTEA
Side 2:
Tribes: FAF, DOGS

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers:

Side 1: 147
Side 2: 100
Difference: 47



Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 57
Side 2: 4
Difference: 53



Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 1,065,775
Side 2: 276,125
Difference: 789,650



Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 467,489
Side 2: 30,970
Difference: 436,519

 
Think I have everyone covered here, not easy with all the tribe hopping, name changing and so forth with those northern tribes.

Still, I'm sure it's part of the big plan to remove the southern alliance!


Stats speak for themselves I think?

Side 1:
Tribes: LoL, SWTEA
Side 2:
Tribes: Umm, FUBAR, DOGS
Players: Basil Brush, Scrumper101, gills, Silentwarrior, moonjumping, love gravy, antsthe great, PaleRider, Hawk 01, davidbrooke, grahampaulkelly, Diarchy, borntolose

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers:

Side 1: 160
Side 2: 110
Difference: 50



Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 76
Side 2: 5
Difference: 71



Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 1,221,224
Side 2: 670,792
Difference: 550,432



Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 613,229
Side 2: 47,979
Difference: 565,250

 

mattyflan

Active Member
mmm.. I'd just like to point out that I left the Gotcha! account weeks ago due to the tribe being terrible. After asking the player (whoever that is) to delete my name off the account, he's refused to do so. Therefore I can only assume someone's impersonating me. Well it's not me, and if anyone knows who's on the current account please give me his regular name so that I know who to rim on uk14.
 

Jessiecat

Guest
mmm.. I'd just like to point out that I left the Gotcha! account weeks ago due to the tribe being terrible. After asking the player (whoever that is) to delete my name off the account, he's refused to do so. Therefore I can only assume someone's impersonating me. Well it's not me, and if anyone knows who's on the current account please give me his regular name so that I know who to rim on uk14.
Unless you're the original account holder (which I doubt) I can assure you that there is no other name associated with the Gotcha! account. But if you are the original Gotcha! then you can only blame yourself for whatever FAF became. And for then abandoning it. Most of us have moved on and tried to rebuild as Ummm. You can rant all you like but it's no longer your concern, is it?
And if you are UK Pro who took the account for a few days then left in a hissy fit then it's your fault for not removing your profile pic before flouncing out of the building. Tough titties. You hardly have a registered patent on it do you? :lol:
 
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