what do you think is the pefect duke train!

DeletedUser

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when making your nukes what do your nukes consist of.

and why do you think this is the best build!
 

DeletedUser1342

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When recruiting troops for a nuke (or defensive) i generally go for the fastest build time possible, obviously this differs on some worlds due to the different speed settings.

Nukes should always consist of Axes, light cav (heavy cav if you go that strat) and rams. Cats are always an added bonus at times.

Most people tend to have their own opinion on what the best build is, you should do a little bit of researching and then tweak a build to suit yourself.
 

DeletedUser14

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Yeah you will find that there is alot of different opinions on the subject and lots of different situations that affect what you should build.

But like ??anon?? says fastest to build is good especially in early worlds and at war times,
I havent tested this or anything and you will probably be able to have more but.
>6000 axe
3000 light cav
220 rams.
Like I say you will prob have more farmspace to build more but that is kind of a general idea.
 
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I don't make nuke trains, I only need one nuke to wipe a village.

But it would have to depend on previos scout reports, tribe, point, etc. Because I don't want to send a 12K axe nuke to a village which only needs 6K, when I could be using the other 6K on someone else.
 

DeletedUser2765

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Whaaa, why would you split your nuke? That doubles your losses.
 

Nauzhror

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Kriegselend said:
Whaaa, why would you split your nuke? That doubles your losses.
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Depends who you're trying to noble. Worth it on someone unlikely to get support, but very capable of splitting for instance.

Though on the topic of what I build:

It's the suggestion ??anon?? gave, but with actual math, ie. that is the fastest building ratio of axe/lc.

6235 axe
3043 lc
250 MA
213 rams
 
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DeletedUser

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and strongest physiscaly is
4500 axe
1500 lc
1625 MA
250-350 rams
 

Nauzhror

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zarddeath200 said:
and strongest physiscaly is
4500 axe
1500 lc
1625 MA
250-350 rams
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Is that a joke?

Anything with more than 500 MA is absolutely laughable. You've obviously never seen the simulator before.

The nuke I posted builds in 355 hours, 14 minutes. the one you posted builds in 419 hours, 38 minutes yet is FAR weaker against a standard defense.

Yours:

Attacker Units: 0 0 4500 0 0 1600 1625 0 350 0 0 0 981.250 527.500 893.750 20.775
Losses: 0 0 4500 0 0 1600 1625 0 350 0 0 0 981.250 527.500 893.750 20.775

Defender Units: 8000 8000 0 4000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.040.000 600.000 880.000 20.000
Losses: 4439 4439 0 2219 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 577.020 332.910 488.260 11.097
Damage by rams: The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 20 to level 11

kills 11,097 pop.


Mine:

Attacker Units: 0 0 6235 0 0 3043 250 0 213 0 0 0 880.875 558.950 1.090.250 20.722
Losses: 0 0 6235 0 0 3043 250 0 213 0 0 0 880.875 558.950 1.090.250 20.722

Defender Units: 8000 8000 0 4000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.040.000 600.000 880.000 20.000
Losses: 4824 4824 0 2412 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 627.120 361.800 530.640 12.060
Damage by rams: The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 20 to level 14

kills 12,060 pop
 

DeletedUser2765

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His lowers the wall 3 levels more though. Just agreeing on how many rams... For the MA, 1500 is a little to much. Lol.
 

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Kriegselend said:
His lowers the wall 3 levels more though. Just agreeing on how many rams... For the MA, 1500 is a little to much. Lol.
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213 is mathematically the best amount for a 10k/10k D with 20 wall, I will agree though that late game specialized nukes with more rams intended for breaking the wall down on stacked villages are absolutely helpful.
 

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Nauzhror said:
213 is mathematically the best amount for a 10k/10k D with 20 wall, I will agree though that late game specialized nukes with more rams intended for breaking the wall down on stacked villages are absolutely helpful.
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I've heard of people build 1,000 rams for a nuke before. I myself have never tried it before, but it'd definetly be interesting to see a wall disintegrate in just 1-2 attacks. Lol. :p

Edit:

Units: 0 0 7000 0 2000 0 1000 0 0 970.000 610.000 980.000 20.000
Losses: 0 0 7000 0 2000 0 1000 0 0 970.000 610.000 980.000 20.000

Defender Units: 10000 10000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 800.000 600.000 800.000 20.000
Losses: 4179 4179 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 334.320 250.740 334.320 8.358
Damage by rams: The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 20 to level 0

Units: 0 0 10000 0 2500 0 213 0 0 976.400 592.600 1.067.600 21.065
Losses: 0 0 10000 0 2500 0 213 0 0 976.400 592.600 1.067.600 21.065

Defender Units: 10000 10000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 800.000 600.000 800.000 20.000
Losses: 6494 6494 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 519.520 389.640 519.520 12.988
Damage by rams: The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 20 to level 11
 
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One of my old W23 buddies made it his goal to capture all the "Faster Workshop" vills and build 750+ ram nukes just for stacked villages :p

Didn't half miss him when he quit :(



I personally use:
5850 Axe
3250 LC
300 Rams
and then a few scouts or cats on top. with 1 sword and 1 HC kicking round in the vill

Not sure if its the best, but I did a quick excel spreadsheet and it seemed to work out...



As for MA. I either go with all MA, or no MA.

3750 MA / 300 rams for meh <3
 

DeletedUser

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erm, i dont think it is wise to post what you use in the forum, it is like posting troop numbers in the forum but worse
 

DeletedUser

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What? Posting that you use axes to attack people is bad now?

I'd say posting what you actually have in your village is worse than what you would use on an account with 1,000 vills....
 

DeletedUser

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Kriegselend said:
I've heard of people build 1,000 rams for a nuke before. I myself have never tried it before, but it'd definetly be interesting to see a wall disintegrate in just 1-2 attacks. Lol. :p
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I like to have one or two ready for villages I know will be stacked :) A 10% bonus population village will let you build a nuke of 7k axe, 2.5k LC and 1000 rams. Then if you add in a paladin with Carols Morning star...

Attacker 0 0 7000 0 0 2500 0 0 1000 0 1 0
Losses: 0 0 7000 0 0 2500 0 0 1000 0 1 0

Defender 10000 10000 0 10000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Losses: 3285 3285 0 3285 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Damage by rams: The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 20 to level 0
 

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War Champion said:
erm, i dont think it is wise to post what you use in the forum, it is like posting troop numbers in the forum but worse
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Yeah, cause some1 would really justify their defensive villages after 1 players off villages :icon_rolleyes:
 

DeletedUser

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This is a typical one I'd send with a train:


2200 lc

500-800 ma (should take care of the 3k archers :icon_biggrin:)

222 ram (lowers the wall to 3-4,I don't see the point of taking it all the way down if you're planning to take the village)

9 cats (to take out rally point so they can't snipe from that village :icon_razz:)

the rest of the farm space use up building axes(Even better if you have an extra population bonus village:icon_twisted:) ,and 4 nobles if you are planning to take the villa!
 
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