welcome to the forums cooper,
@ ironblev
did you ever really treat us as allies or even equals? the simple answer to this is no. you expected us to keep to our agreements when you showed on countless occasion that you had no intentions of keeping to the same ones.
truth is DOGS, if it wasn't for John i think we would have declared a long time ago. the rest of your tribe has no idea about diplomacy and as such you guys are the unintentional new S.T.
ps you're not the only tribe fighting on 2 fronts we are too, shows how much you cared about what your allies were upto. again more proof of how little badly you treated this alliance. now you're previous disrespectful actions have come round to bite you in the arse
I'd like to see examples of these actions APART from in these last few weeks during the TEAM war to which I am fully aware we have been conspired against with C-C approaching TEAM in the early days asking if they needed help against us (nice allies).
and I/we are aware of who you have been fighting - why would you assume we didnt !!??
Myself and our council has worked very hard in keeping to our original agreements and commuincating these to the tribe - yes with breaches in the early days during teething problems as we communicated it. I cant see where the attitude toward us comes from. We are a core tribe and have fought battle after battle in a hectic K and perhaps somewhere we neglected issues while focusding on others ...... but to face such allegations I find offensive as I know the truth of these situations regardless of what
PR Spin people try to put on it.
To answer a latter point :- there were occasions where we paid the due respect and sought the approval of C-C when we were approached by potential recruits - you said No so we said no.
We had a war with SMACK all be it not our main focus and accepted the offer of the NAP as the war with TEAM emerged, were not silly enough to fight so many other tribes such as S.T did and failed - who I may add declared on us about the same time the TEAM war broke out and we were fighting them too.
C-C did not approach us about the SMACK merger (to which we had no beef with by the way and congratulated you) but yet you expect to know about all our movements and mergers.
Accepted - us bringing in the southern DS members (2 I belive who have holdings in your K) is an issue, and I accept that as honesty is always my policy - we should of declared it. An oversight on our part during a merger of the DS top brass (and not ignorance). Refugees's they were not!
.....and when does it become a gang bang then? TEAM, S.T and now C-C versus one tribe?
To suggest this has emerged purely through C-C losing patience with an alliance is rubbish. .........
To quote Dee's earlier post 'oh I thought this declaration was coming on wednesday' showing TEAM have been aware before DOGS even knew.
I have values in RL and they reflect in my gaming attitude too, my honour and respect will always be there and not easily given up,! although of course this is just a war game, but lets not kid ourselves that there has'nt been conspiring going on as we know differerent.
We will do our best and rise to this new challenge .....
ironblev
DOGS
