No m/s world, how do trains/snipe's work?

DeletedUser

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This is a no m/s world, so how do trains work?

Will a train land over 4 seconds?

How will a snipe work? As this will land on the second, the same second as the noble, so does it come in to affect for that second on the second after the attack?

e.g.

Train: 09:00:00 to 09:00:04
Snipe: 09:00:03

Will this affect the noble that hits in the same second (09:00:03) or the last noble at (09:00:04)?
 

DeletedUser282

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First command sent hits first.
For example if player A sends an attack on village A at 12:00:00 to hit at 18:00:00
And Player B sends an attack on village A at 13:00:00 to hit at 18:00:00
And Player C sends support to Village A at 12:30:00 to hit at 18:00:00

Player sent first, then player C then Player B. So Player As attack would land, then Player Cs support, then Player Bs attack.

So assuming in your scenario the attack hitting at 09:00:03 was sent before the split (seems extremely likely) then the attack on 09:00:03 would land before the support on 09:00:03.

In this world, same second trains cannot be split. Same second backtimes cannot be dodged.
 
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DeletedUser

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Hi. You seem to be posting a fair few question topics, such as this. You must be relatively new here :) Perhaps you should read some guides to help you out.
Basically, if two attacks land on the same second, the attack sent first will hit first. Meaning that noble trains from far away must be sent to hit 1 second after the nuke (as the nuke moves faster and consequently is sent last).
Your example isn't a good one, as any day old noob can send a 4 second train. A better example would be:
Nuke hits at 09:00:20
4 Nobles all hit at 09:00:21

Once noticing this, you should co-ordinate support to land at 09:00:20. As this support is sent after the Nuke but is classed as the second before the nobles, it will land after the nuke hits, allowing the support to kill the nobles. Theoretically.

I hope this helped :)
 

DeletedUser

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I've not played on a no m/s world, hence the question.

I understand most of whats just been said, but just for clarification, when you send your 4 nobles, say using T-Train method they will all land on the same second?
Yes/No?

If that's so then that means your can't snipe the last noble, you just have to get your support there after the nuke assuming a nuke isn't sent with the first noble as well.

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Pink Pony said:
Hi. You seem to be posting a fair few question topics, such as this. You must be relatively new here :) Perhaps you should read some guides to help you out.
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And I've only posted two question topics including this one and asked a question about micro farming in another topic that I didn't start.

I've played for two years, but never started in the core, never played without m/s, never played with no growing barbs, and my questions have been bassed on those aspects of the game which I'm unfamiliar with.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
It depends on your internet connection; if it's good and you send them at the start of the second, they should land in the same second. I've received lag spikes before which has split attacks up, in which case I cancel and resend them, as they are easy to snipe.
Fair enough, then it's fair to say you're new to certain aspects. No offence intended, it always takes a few questions to learn about new mechanics. No worries.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
Pretty much if you send a sub-second train, due to no ms it will be unsnipable and land at the same second.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
Cheers, that takes a few of the usual tactics out of the window.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
Also, pretty sure this world follows the FIFO rule (first in, first out) meaning the attack send first lands first. Refer to Gargareth's post for this.
 

DeletedUser

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Stormridder said:
I've not played on a no m/s world, hence the question.

I understand most of whats just been said, but just for clarification, when you send your 4 nobles, say using T-Train method they will all land on the same second?
Yes/No?

If that's so then that means your can't snipe the last noble, you just have to get your support there after the nuke assuming a nuke isn't sent with the first noble as well.
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Yeah, they'll all land same second like:

05:55:23:000
05:55:23:000
05:55:23:000
05:55:23:000

'tis done by attack ID yeah, first launched lands first.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
Seems to have been answered, thanks for everyone's help and input. I'll be closing this thread now. If there are any more questions, mail me in regards to it and I will open it back up, or you can make a post in the General Questions section.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
No m/s world, how do trains/snipe's work? part2

God knows why the first thread got closed, but let's continue as this also is my first world without MS.

Example;

Player A is an aggressive player with 2 attack cities, A1 & A2;
A1: Send 5 noblemen attacks with heavy nuke in front from A1 town against B1 town, with only 50 axes to escort noblemen in the rest 4 remaining attacks. All 5 arriving 23:00:00
A2: Send wallbreaker towards B1 arriving 22:59:59

Player B also has 2 cities, but more balanced with B1 as offensive and B2 as a defensive town.

Question:
What options has player B got to avoid his town B1 from being nobled?
 

Maggie Wallis

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If the 5 Noble attacks all land in the same second they can't be sniped...

The defender can land his D troops before 22:59:58 and they will be hit by every attack..

or he can land his D troops at 22:59:59 allowing the Wallbreaker to go unchallenged and the D troops landing before the 5 Nobles...

If you send a trian in under a second in the same second it can not be snipped...

If you send a Ram Nuke from one village, 4 nobles from another, and D troops from a 3rd village that all land in the same second before your opponent can send his D troops to the village you can flatten a wall, noble and support a village and there is nothing the defender can do but stack the village and hope...
 

DeletedUser

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OMG...this will be a totally new world indeed without sniping & dodging :icon_eek:
 

DeletedUser

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There is no reason why you can't do both just that its going to be tricky for sniping, dodging won't be a problem though, unless your trying to dodge the first attack and then use them to snipe.
 

Maggie Wallis

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I'd guess that it will actually make snipping easier... Sending a T Train in under a second ain't that difficult.. sending it so it all lands in the same second is far harder so your more likely to get a train with one 1 second gap rather than three .25 second gaps...

Not that snipping is even an issue until your opponent has two villages.... though I'm sure Axes and any other decent tribes will be sending Co-trains that all land the same second until then...
 

DeletedUser

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Of course you can dodge, there is nothing stopping you from doing that.
 
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