R~A~C Vs ~AKP~ - A Background Story

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R~A~C Vs ~AKP~ - A Background Story

For anyone who cares to know ~RAC~ side of the coin, and perhaps enjoys a good novel, with a couple of twists in the story :icon_biggrin:

I have been reading a lot of arrogant and snooty comments by one member of ~AKP~ in particular who seems to love giving distorted facts of what kicked off the ~RAC~ and ~AKP~ war. Seems even those involved in the events are confused, never mind anyone else.

Okay this is my point of view on what happened, and I am sure anyone will jump in and tell me where I've been mislead etc. Anyone who knows me, knows I really don't care what people think of me, be it tribemates, enemies or anyone else. I don't sacrifice my personality or my ethics for the sake of a village or two on a game.

Pre - Merge of ACES and ~RAC~

Before Christmas, ACES and ~RAC~ had good relations. A lot of players shared common areas between tribes, and there was a general feeling of trying our best to work together, afterall we were both small fish in the big sea. KPS were a much larger neighbour to both of us.

Then one day, the lads in ACES grew tired of the treaty breaking aggression made by KPS. They started attacking them outright. ( tip of the hat for guts ). After ACES nobled a couple of isolated villages, KPS regained the lead in the war and started to turn the tide very strongly.

Whilst this was going on, there was a general feeling of boredom in ~RAC~. Our members had grown tired of fighting smaller players and wanted a challenge. It's worth mentioning here, that our relations with KPS were just as good as with ACES. However, KPS were seeking us to enter the war on their side against ACES, to ensure a quicker victory. Now after many council discussions and taking into account of the general unrest of the tribe, a lot of the RAC council strongly considered that war with ACES would be a good idea to clear out K35 and K46.

In stepped the village idiot that is me, Avenging Archangel, to wreck all of this. I had been good mates with the duke of ACES, Chesty, since I got rimmed out beside him. His tribe and me had always worked well together helping out each other. I suggested to the council that perhaps a merge might be a better option. We merge with ACES and go to war with KPS in the process, thus keeping everyone happy and satisfying our restless tribe. The council were open to the idea so I contacted Chesty and asked him if he would merge into RAC, and I gently implied that a decision needed to be made asap. We discussed that they could only bring their top players and the rest would be left out. We would also be kicking some inactive members.


Merge of ACES and ~RAC~

At first the merge went great. New blood, new revived activity. KPS were very angry about our move in taking in their refugees but for some reason never attacked.

One of our members, convinced the council to organise the setting up of TEAM-VIRTUS, for all those eager and active members of both ~RAC~ and ACES who didn't make it into the new tribe. She genuinely felt bad for abandoning those of them who were very eager to learn, very responsive to follow orders, and who were active. In fairness, we all agreed with her and supported her idea. An old friend of hers thus set up this new tribe -TV-, which was run independently but allied to the merged ~RAC~.

Suddenly of course problems started to arise in the New Year. Chesty, as much as I loved his personality, was for some reason really annoying people on the council. They claimed he kept having outbursts and losing his head. Now I personally never saw this but as I said, others thought it.

Another problem was of course the issue with the lack of a War. Our tribe was again restless! We had planned to go to war against KPS at some stage but the tribe genuinely didn't seem to be ready. After some hesitation, a date was finally set for the launch of the War.

After some issues and mix ups however the launch for the op was cancelled. There are too many sides of the coins to discuss here who postponed it, but needless to say blame was made everywhere. However a large mistake that was made was that one of our Duke's had publicly blamed Chesty for it, to the rest of the tribe. The second large mistake, imo, was Chesty then got very angry and left the tribe.

Within the next few hours this had snowballed into a mass exodus of the ACES members to leaving and reforming their old tribe. A small fight between two members had split the tribe in half, a true act of selfishness and putting yourself before the tribe in my opinion.


War Declared

After the fallout from above, the council of ~RAC~ tried to calm everything down. We hoped this could be mended. Circulars were being sent out to the tribe to tell them that ACES were not enemies, and should be treated as they were before the merge, i.e. respectful with nobling etc.

Things were just starting to settle, when suddenly out of the blue in a lot of ~RAC~ eyes, ACES declared war on us. Well after scratching our heads for several hours, ( for me several days - village idiot remember :icon_eek: ), we could not figure out why war had started. Surely KPS were going to be the common enemy as before.

But as always, we got over the initial shock and got stuck into the war.


Initial War

Aces started immediately to attack and noble out small members of TEAM-VIRTUS. This tribe still contained a lot of old ACES members as well as of course ~RAC~ members. TEAM-VIRTUS were soon in big trouble, and their duke decided to disband the tribe and move any still alive into ~RAC~. Some of these members were ex ACES from the merge, but as I said we didn't want to leave any active members behind. It's not why we came to this world.

Once -TV- were removed, ~RAC~ were able to start clearing out ACES from K35. Within days the War Stats were showing us beating them quite heftily. In fairness we were hitting their problematic area and not their core K46 but nevertheless, we were winning.


The Ironic Twist :icon_surprised:

And of course everyone knows the rest of the story. KPS disbanded and merged into ACES to form the new tribe ~AKP~. Thus the tribe we orignally saved from KPS now merged with KPS to fight us. Eli Roth would be proud if he had constructed that twist of events lol.


Epilogue

Now I like a lot of the guys from ACES. Chesty, the ferret etc etc. All good decent lads and have done well to keep their tribe alive and dominant. And our tribe perhaps made some foolish decisions and naive ones too. But make no mistake, we are not here to be number one tribe, we are here to have fun.

A double betrayal to the tribe ~RAC~, as well as to your original ACES members who you attacked.

This is not an attempt to whinge or seek sympathy.

This is an attempt to stop the incessant mouthing off an ~AKP~ player who thinks his tribe are the Robin Hood's of their lands, the holiest and high moraled tribe, fighting a just and honourable war.

At least your old Duke and Baron can admit they done what they had to do. I have no issues with that, they done well.

But

Lyon23,

Stop Blaming ~RAC~.

Jog on mate....Your BS won't wash with me and it shouldn't with the rest of the forum.

 

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Good read, nice to see a different view point and a new thread :lol:
 

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Good PNP henry. Only a couple of comments...............

I blamed Chesty for the KPS op being cancelled. He was a co duke at that point, and agreed with a small number of the council to cancel it (not the majority). He failed to inform his co duke that the op had been cancelled.
I pointed out the truth of what happened, because he claimed the council didnt want to fight KPS, whereas he did. So in my mind, what i did was correct the untruth he was spreading.

He left, because he failed to sieze control of the tribe, when we held elections for the duke position.

It was not a Duke who came up with the idea of forming -TV-. In fact it was her coplayer, and I agreed. It started as a joke, but as these things do, took on a life of its own. She was actually against it.
 

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Okay I was under the impression that Dr. Evil NRNS had set up -TV-.

Also when I talked to our duke about -TV-, she stressed to me that she did not want to abandon eager and active layers. This was not UK2 was the idea etc. Just here for a good honest fair fun time. :lol:

If I am wrong about these points I stand corrected.



And thanks Internal-Failure and Juke of course, for the kind words.
 
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Henry my friend, its a great pnp. And they are my opinions and recollections of what happened. I'm sure others will disagree, as sure as the sun will rise in the morning.
 

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AA, when i saw this post i was looking forward to reading it, and mostly its well written.

but a few points...

Lyon23,

Stop Blaming ~RAC~.

i only blamed the boredom and lack of war on the R~A~C council, which you have admitted was the case... and which ultimately lead to the split between ACES and R~A~C.

Jog on mate....Your BS won't wash with me and it shouldn't with the rest of the forum.

so, what BS ?? please find me some. i think your the one talking BS. we only have to look at your noble stats to see your agenda and its not about the tribe surely ?? i thought it there was a barb munching competition on or something.

now... trying not to pick to many holes :icon_neutral:

After ACES nobled a couple of isolated villages, KPS regained the lead in the war and started to turn the tide very strongly.

i dont remember them taking any ACES villa... i know we took a few, but dont remember losing any ?

We merge with ACES and go to war with KPS in the process, thus keeping everyone happy and satisfying our restless tribe.

except you didn't declare on KPs did you ? no, people can see in my stats how long i was in R~A~C for, and the WHOLE time the council napped with KPs.

This tribe still contained a lot of old ACES members

all EX ACES members were invited to join us, those that didn't did not want to or were inactive.

At least your old Duke and Baron can admit they done what they had to do.

we all did what we had to. now you think im full of what ?? i have only told the truth, very similar to your story here.

so what is it that actually is getting your back up ? was it my rumors comment about your members wanting to join us ??

lol, that was just a rumor, meant to get a reaction. im guessing it worked :icon_eek:

please, by all means keep bashin me, but next time you come back, can you bring proof of my BS ??

my personal opinion is your more fake than my nans teeth. you claim to be for the tribe, but i disagree, your sore because your games not gonna go the way you want it to. which would probably be growing to top ten through barbs and internals, never having to take a risk.
 

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so which bits wrong then juke ??

o, thats right none of it :icon_eek:

i dont think your short and rather pointless posts are needed, but alas, we get to enjoy your enlightening words of wisdom.
 

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Seeing as I know what happened, and know what was said in council, and I know which Duke, agreed to not go to war with KPS, and who then blamed the council for not wanting to fight................I think I know better than you ever will whats true and what isn't.
 

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my personal opinion is your more fake than my nans teeth. you claim to be for the tribe, but i disagree, your sore because your games not gonna go the way you want it to. which would probably be growing to top ten through barbs and internals, never having to take a risk.



I know for a fact that AA has taken many ~AKP~ villages both in k35 and k45 so to say he never takes any risks is untrue. Then again so have most members of R~A~C :lol:
 

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ok granted, AA has actually been attacking red dots. perhaps my point was exaggerated, but seriously, the world wants their farms back :icon_eek:

#10 Today, 22:11 Top
Seeing as I know what happened, and know what was said in council, and I know which Duke, agreed to not go to war with KPS, and who then blamed the council for not wanting to fight................I think I know better than you ever will whats true and what isn't.
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and seriously ? only an idiot would believe that.

two weeks and one day i was in R~A~C, and 0 ( - i can make that larger for you if you need ? ) 0 days of war. now you can blame that on whoever you like, and you may believe it till the cows come home.
but i am not gonna blame two weeks off barb nobling on 1 duke, the whole council, mainly made up off R~A~C members is to blame.
 
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Some stats....................
Side 1:
Players: Avenging Archangel
Side 2:
Tribes: ~AKP~

Timeframe: Last month

Total conquers:

Side 1: 115
Side 2: 393
Difference: 278

chart


Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 13
Side 2: 0
Difference: 13

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Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 838,737
Side 2: 2,635,596
Difference: 1,796,859

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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 113,323
Side 2: 0
Difference: 113,323

chart

Side 1:
Tribes: R~A~C
Side 2:
Tribes: ~AKP~

Timeframe: Last month

Total conquers:

Side 1: 782
Side 2: 393
Difference: 389

chart


Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 92
Side 2: 79
Difference: 13

chart


Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 4,219,477
Side 2: 2,635,596
Difference: 1,583,881

chart


Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 666,595
Side 2: 575,540
Difference: 91,055

chart

Side 1:
Tribes: ~KPs~
Side 2:
Tribes: ~AKP~

Timeframe: Last 3 months

Total conquers:

Side 1: 1,419
Side 2: 393
Difference: 1,026

chart


Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 7
Side 2: 7
Difference: 0

chart


Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 7,245,089
Side 2: 2,635,596
Difference: 4,609,493

chart


Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 50,442
Side 2: 59,127
Difference: 8,685

chart

And finally.............

K - 56 - 002 (642|535) K56 3,259 Bendit51 [JBOX] lyon23 [~AKP~] 2011-02-04 13:48:36
K - 46S/E - 001 (612|498) K46 6,322 UrNextStepDad [R~A~C] lyon23 [~AKP~] 2011-02-03 21:48:47
K - 46E - 004 (610|473) K46 3,810 UrNextStepDad [R~A~C] lyon23 [~AKP~] 2011-02-03 19:22:11
K - 46E - 003 (615|479) K46 6,554 DR-EVIL-NRNS lyon23 [~AKP~] 2011-02-03 02:25:19
K - 46E - 002 (619|476) K46 8,391 DR-EVIL-NRNS lyon23 [~AKP~] 2011-02-02 15:13:26
K - 56 - 002 (642|535) K56 3,003 Barbarian lyon23 [~AKP~] 2011-02-02 13:48:42
K - 46E - 001 (620|476) K46 8,333 fatboy 1066 [MLT] lyon23 [~AKP~] 2011-01-21 23:40:34
K - 46C - 021 (625|473) K46 7,068 fatboy 1066 [MLT] lyon23 [~AKP~] 2011-01-20 22:36:16
K - 46C - 017 (631|476) K46 8,058 fatboy 1066 [MLT] lyon23 [~AKP~] 2011-01-20 16:40:30
K - 46C - 020 (625|471) K46 4,072 fatboy 1066 [MLT] lyon23 [~AKP~] 2011-01-19 22:44:27
K - 46C - 018 (627|472) K46 7,731 fatboy 1066 [MLT] lyon23 [~AKP~] 2011-01-19 21:38:28
K - 46C - 019 (625|470) K46 4,544 fatboy 1066 [R~A~C] lyon23 [~AKP~] 2011-01-18 23:36:10
K - 56 - 001 (641|537) K56 3,009 Barbarian lyon23 [~AKP~] 2011-01-18 15:08:14
K - 46C - 012 (636|463) K46 3,052 Acapello [VIRTUS] lyon23 [R~A~C] 2011-01-14 03:40:02
K - 46C - 006 (631|468) K46 3,039 Barbarian lyon23 [R~A~C] 2011-01-13 00:13:11
K - 46C - 007 (630|467) K46 3,063 Barbarian lyon23 [R~A~C] 2011-01-12 17:58:22
K - 46C - 014 (632|459) K46 3,094 Raziel81 [VIRTUS] lyon23 [R~A~C] 2011-01-05 08:24:07
K - 46C - 008 (631|466) K46 2,492 PRIMEDESTROYER lyon23 [R~A~C] 2011-01-04 21:45:20
K - 46C - 009 (629|468) K46 3,132 Barbarian lyon23 [R~A~C] 2011-01-04 14:51:41
K - 46C - 015 (641|468) K46 2,908 lyon23 [R~A~C] lyon23 [R~A~C] 2011-01-03 19:17:37
K - 46C - 015 (641|468) K46 2,908 liam27 [INNO] lyon23 [R~A~C] 2011-01-03 19:17:25
K - 46C - 010 (628|469) K46 6,485 AngelofInnocence [INNO] lyon23 [R~A~C] 2011-01-02 21:36:06
K - 46C - 011 (633|465) K46 3,060 Barbarian lyon23 [R~A~C] 2011-01-02 01:38:04
K - 46C - 016 (635|477) K46 4,123 Lord Woodstar [~KPs~] lyon23 [ACES] 2010-12-30 08:03:48
K - 46C - 003 (634|470) K46 3,109 Barbarian lyon23 [ACES] 2010-12-19 03:40:03
K - 46C - 013 (634|462) K46 1,482 Hades The Hated [ACES] lyon23 [ACES] 2010-12-14 16:29:38
K - 46C - 004 (634|472) K46 1,841 Barbarian lyon23 [ACES] 2010-12-08 23:11:59
K - 46C - 005 (636|468) K46 2,652 Cecil03 [ITAPRO] lyon23 [ACES]
2010-12-05 15:09:08

Before you accuse people of being barb munchers, make sure you can't be accused of the same.
 
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like i said...

two weeks and one day i was in R~A~C, and 0 ( - i can make that larger for you if you need ? ) 0 days of war.

K - 46C - 012 (636|463) K46 3,052 Acapello [VIRTUS] lyon23 [R~A~C] 2011-01-14 03:40:02
K - 46C - 006 (631|468) K46 3,039 Barbarian lyon23 [R~A~C] 2011-01-13 00:13:11
K - 46C - 007 (630|467) K46 3,063 Barbarian lyon23 [R~A~C] 2011-01-12 17:58:22
K - 46C - 014 (632|459) K46 3,094 Raziel81 [VIRTUS] lyon23 [R~A~C] 2011-01-05 08:24:07
K - 46C - 008 (631|466) K46 2,492 PRIMEDESTROYER lyon23 [R~A~C] 2011-01-04 21:45:20
K - 46C - 009 (629|468) K46 3,132 Barbarian lyon23 [R~A~C] 2011-01-04 14:51:41
K - 46C - 015 (641|468) K46 2,908 lyon23 [R~A~C] lyon23 [R~A~C] 2011-01-03 19:17:37
K - 46C - 015 (641|468) K46 2,908 liam27 [INNO] lyon23 [R~A~C] 2011-01-03 19:17:25
K - 46C - 010 (628|469) K46 6,485 AngelofInnocence [INNO] lyon23 [R~A~C] 2011-01-02 21:36:06
K - 46C - 011 (633|465) K46 3,060 Barbarian lyon23 [R~A~C] 2011-01-02 01:38:04

Before you accuse people of being barb munchers, make sure you can't be accused of the same.

half of my barb nobles all while in R~A~C and unable to noble anything else :icon_eek:

but thanks for making my point !!!

o, and btw, these war stats are looking nice and close, so congrats to all involved for that... although, it must be said, R~A~C are nobling alot of villages outside of our own they are taking. would look, but cba to look to find out whats going on there.
 

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And finally.............

2010-12-05 15:09:08

Before you accuse people of being barb munchers, make sure you can't be accused of the same.


Just thought I'd throw in as nemesis didnt give a figure......
8 of 29 Conquers have been from Barbs....
Lyon, I think you took advantage of your two weeks barb nobling quite well :lol:

two weeks and one day i was in R~A~C, and 0 ( - i can make that larger for you if you need ? ) 0 days of war. now you can blame that on whoever you like, and you may believe it till the cows come home.
but i am not gonna blame two weeks off barb nobling on 1 duke, the whole council, mainly made up off R~A~C members is to blame.
 

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ok granted, AA has actually been attacking red dots. perhaps my point was exaggerated, but seriously, the world wants their farms back :icon_eek:



and seriously ? only an idiot would believe that.

two weeks and one day i was in R~A~C, and 0 ( - i can make that larger for you if you need ? ) 0 days of war. now you can blame that on whoever you like, and you may believe it till the cows come home.
but i am not gonna blame two weeks off barb nobling on 1 duke, the whole council, mainly made up off R~A~C members is to blame.


Once again, Chesty, was the duke, who agreed not to go to war. Earlier that same day, the council had voted overwhelmingly to go to war with KPS. Now you can bury your head all you like, listen to all the nonsense thats been said by your leaders, but the truth, is Chesty voted against war.

The council, had voted for it.
 

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great post henry and all i agree with, but what hasnt bveen posted was R~A~C had a vote on who wants to be duke, and this was a tribe wide vote. chesty applied, not the best application but he applied and was doing well.

Mails started to fly around R~A~C *NOT TO VOTE FOR CHESTY* now this is a fair voting councily tribe so why should this mail ever been sent!!!!!

The merge from day one was set to fail In my honest opinion as the R~A~C council could never agree on a certain decision it was always HMMMM or AHHHHH. Hopefully this has changed.

as for the stats you have shown duke i say these are starting to go in our direction as it showed a loss and now an even, i will look at these myself and post if they are different
 

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Okay Lyon here we go:

The BS

i thought i would give us all some reading :)
would we continue as before, before we had found the holy R~A~C ground laden with milk and honey. back to the days of bloodshed and war, would we march into the pirates territory, looking for forgotten treasures.
or would we turn our heads, looking back at the ground made from milk and honey. this was our goal, to take back this golden land from those who seek only to barb noble it to death.


R~A~C Total Conquers Pre-Merge 603
R~A~C Barb Conquers Pre-Merge 334
55% Ratio


ACES Total Conquers Pre-Merge 299
ACES Barb Conquers Pre-Merge 226 :icon_surprised::icon_surprised::icon_surprised:
75% Ratio

Nuff Said Mate


as this is a rumor thread i guess i'll let you get away with that comment no matter how untrue, we never backstabbed anyone, only one person i know who does that ay juke...
how can we be looking out for ourselves ? we took back all our friends who were left out in the R~A~C merge and have kept them with us so long as they are active. we dont let our mates down and were not out for ourselves, never have been. again, that would be someone else i know...

Backstabbing? Don't make me laugh.:lol:

Took back your friends?

A Sample of Ex Members:
Poor Hubert
Knightraider
Loner
Fatboy
mmm
Toby
Flambo


i dont remember them taking any ACES villa... i know we took a few, but dont remember losing any ?

Oh My, Oh My!

Were you asleep during this epicness? Remind me again which day you guys disbanded your tribe and joined us? I can't seem to remember. Oh wait.....



And as for your epic need and want to fight against KPS? Well it dissappeared pretty quick after they give you the punishment above didn't it. I guess you figured your old friends R~A~C would be easier targets. Who cares if they essentially saved you from KPS right?


This thread was started to voice our side of the story as all I have been reading lately is the great battles of ~AKP~ and their just war. Like I said before and like I said privately to Chesty and Lee ( Belstars), I really can't blame you guys, it was a sound strategy. Just stop acting all high and mighty about it. You sucker punched us twice.

As for your personal attacks on me, I really couldn't care less mate. Like I have said before, those who need to know my nobling reasons know. What anyone else says about how I play can poke away.



EDIT for Belstars Post:

Ah mate the mails for voting against Chesty was a disgrace. I personally dismissed both mails I got and told both players that was a disgrace. It is my understanding that both these players sent these to their trusted friends only...a handful of people. Trying convince players how to vote though in my opinion was a low point in our tribe, but as I stated these guys had big issues with Chesty. Nevertheless everyone should have voted the person they deemed would be best to run the tribe. I hope that's how it panned out regardless of the mails.

And Lee you were on the council mate, your opinion counted. If you had issues with the system, then why not try to change it. In my opinion, people put themselves first above the tribe and just upped and left, without thinking of the 60 other members.
 
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Seeing as I know what happened, and know what was said in council, and I know which Duke, agreed to not go to war with KPS, and who then blamed the council for not wanting to fight................I think I know better than you ever will whats true and what isn't.

seeing as i have spent countless hours on skype chats and in the same tribe as you previously, i can safely say, with a touch of sarcasm..that anything that goes in one side of your head, generally bounces around for an hour or 2 then comes out the other side twisted and contorted into something other than what was just said..so i highly doubt you know better :icon_razz: and if you do i personally am amazed :lol:
 

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seeing as i have spent countless hours on skype chats and in the same tribe as you previously, i can safely say, with a touch of sarcasm..that anything that goes in one side of your head, generally bounces around for an hour or 2 then comes out the other side twisted and contorted into something other than what was just said..so i highly doubt you know better :icon_razz: and if you do i personally am amazed :lol:


Looking in the mirror again Darth?

Seems like it.
 
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