I can testify that FW has offensive villages (and tbh I'm sure we'd all be pretty surprised if you didn't), but the general impression, at least on our end, is that you guys and
not expansive, at least not through conquest, and so the comment about being a turtle tribe.
Now there's nothing wrong with turtleing, but there's a lot more right about conquering, and I agree with what thunderhorse implied that what we perceive to be your "turtleing attitude" will be your downfall - as long as we are expanding towards you, your turtle shell will eventually break
As to comments about ODA, don't forget that T4H is not as old as FW, so the rankings table might be a bit deceiving, here's our current totals off twstats:
T4H - 246,529,577 ODA
T4H-W - 136,391,222 ODA
=T4H= - 55,186,138 ODA
Total:
438,106,937 ODA
*FW* - 211,798,920 ODA
Riffs - 45,929,787 ODA
*WW* - 8,547,828 ODA
FWWWR - 6,358,345 ODA
Total:
272,634,880 ODA
Slightly speaks for itself ...