will TEAM fall or thrive?

[DeletedUser3473]

TEAM will thrive, their members are addicts. Trouble is the same can be said of the competition, this is going to be a long war.

For my part I have been on the front line with DOGS and TA1 for as long as I can remember, I sometimes wish I could walk away, but I just can't.
For now, for me at least, it is stalemate:

Side 1:
Tribes:
Players: Pipsdad

Side 2:
Tribes: TA1 DOGS
Players:

Timeframe: Forever

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 22
Side 2: 21
Difference: 1

 

[DeletedUser]

I quite liked your post their Pips, for someone who should be biased it's good to see respect for the opposition.
Something that has been lost by most (if they ever had it).

I never thought this war was ever gonna be quick and I often chuckled at the war prediction thread with all the comments of a TEAM downfall or a DOG one, (everytime I saw comments about DOGs end, personally it made be more determined, so thanks guys

it's a fact to state if either DOGs or TEAM ended W2 would never be the same and could even turn quite stale, so I guess for the sake of w2 perhaps both should and may thrive? - as much as we want to end each other, lol.

 

[DeletedUser]

TEAM will always be around they have a very strong core or large players and will always be aggressive and make a big impact on the world

 

[DeletedUser]

just found this thread, it made me laugh....

looks like we found out the answer in the end... TEAM FELL LOL

i have no doubts that team will thrive

TEAM will always be around they have a very strong core or large players and will always be aggressive and make a big impact on the world

LOL

 

[DeletedUser]

I've posted a screenshot of the current -TV- overview's page a good couple of times. On which you can clearly see the tribe was found on Aug 24 2009. This clearly indicates -TV- is still TEAM!

Quit living in your own little world nobby. The world does not turn around you. It becomes time you see things through the correct perspective.

Believe what you want to believe if that satisfies you. but the truth is and will remain that -TV- is still TEAM so hence TEAM is still here. FACT

 

[DeletedUser]

This old gem of a propaganda attempt. How much evidence do you need ? I would have imagined common sense, and a basic knowledge of tribes merging into each other would have sufficed, but I guess there's always one....

Exhibit A

Tribalwars Tribe Profile: TEAM-Virtus (tribe changes) Player Action Date/Time Points
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duhler705 Left 03rd September 2009 - 16:00 288
LordScro Left 03rd September 2009 - 16:00 235
Alastor Left 03rd September 2009 - 16:00 341
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HiyoGZ Left 03rd September 2009 - 16:00 258
Mandingo Left 03rd September 2009 - 16:00 299
jacob1394 Left 03rd September 2009 - 16:00 428
Gravemind Left 03rd September 2009 - 16:00 208
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Tsmile Left 03rd September 2009 - 16:00 161
crazywez123 Left 03rd September 2009 - 16:00 235
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....adam.... Left 03rd September 2009 - 16:00 316
Thulios Left 03rd September 2009 - 16:00 188
.Conscript-Virus. Left 03rd September 2009 - 16:00 319
Norrin Left 03rd September 2009 - 16:00 282
crazywez123 Joined 02nd September 2009 - 16:00 186
nufcmichael Joined 02nd September 2009 - 04:00 75
HiyoGZ Joined 02nd September 2009 - 04:00 244
nite2knight Joined 02nd September 2009 - 01:00 148
Tsmile Joined 01st September 2009 - 22:00 115
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WEMUSTPRESSFULLCHARGES Joined 01st September 2009 - 22:00 238
tryhardah Joined 01st September 2009 - 22:00 206
....adam.... Joined 01st September 2009 - 22:00 235
.Conscript-Virus. Joined 01st September 2009 - 22:00 257
duhler705 Joined 01st September 2009 - 22:00 187
Alastor Joined 01st September 2009 - 22:00 285
SamuelJW Joined 01st September 2009 - 16:00 406
stuartisgod Joined 01st September 2009 - 16:00 314
Norrin Joined 01st September 2009 - 13:00 193
kbarnes3 Joined 01st September 2009 - 04:00 65
wee jimmy Joined 31st August 2009 - 16:00 44
Gravemind Joined 29th August 2009 - 22:00 74
ryansquid Joined 29th August 2009 - 16:00 154
Firedup420 Joined 27th August 2009 - 19:00 50
Thulios Joined 27th August 2009 - 19:00 73
kito Joined 27th August 2009 - 16:00 33
priyan Joined 27th August 2009 - 13:00 26
Ewerks Joined 27th August 2009 - 07:00 122
Dezzyray Joined 26th August 2009 - 22:00 70
Walshaw Joined 26th August 2009 - 16:00 110
Mandingo Joined 25th August 2009 - 19:00 77
LordScro Joined 25th August 2009 - 16:00 48
Ouroboros Joined 25th August 2009 - 13:00 77
jacob1394 Joined 25th August 2009 - 13:00 68
DeAdMaX Joined 25th August 2009 - 07:00 62
DARTHCALAIS Joined 25th August 2009 - 07:00 50
wings3319 Joined 25th August 2009 - 04:00 50
Flash66 Joined 25th August 2009 - 04:00 50
RavenJ Joined 25th August 2009 - 04:00 52
-Valek- Joined 25th August 2009 - 04:00 47
ben9999 Joined 25th August 2009 - 04:00 38
VictoriaClan Joined 25th August 2009 - 04:00 26
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shanobi1 Joined 25th August 2009 - 01:00 52
TheGeneral Joined 25th August 2009 - 01:00 50
comeroundfortea Joined 25th August 2009 - 01:00 46
fFrigge Joined 25th August 2009 - 01:00 48
Rocco Verde Joined 25th August 2009 - 01:00 53
Traviscoob Joined 25th August 2009 - 01:00 52
Deaths headless Horsemen Joined 25th August 2009 - 01:00 69
hodgy77 Joined 25th August 2009 - 01:00 48
Frigge FMD Joined 25th August 2009 - 01:00 26
Knight Mare Joined 25th August 2009 - 01:00 50


Sorry i know that was long scrolling for everyone but hey - that adds to my point.

So Twstats considers this as a long progression of the tribe TEAM.


Exhibit B

1st Page from Tribal Overview from my current tribe : TEAM Virtus

Aug 24
20:53 TheGeneral joined the tribe.
Aug 24
20:52 TheGeneral has been invited by Knight Mare (deleted).
Aug 24
20:49 fFrigge (deleted) has been invited by Knight Mare (deleted).
Aug 24
20:31 shanobi1 (deleted) joined the tribe.
Aug 24
20:28 Deaths headless Horsemen (deleted) joined the tribe.
Aug 24
20:28 Deaths headless Horsemen (deleted) has been invited by Knight Mare (deleted).
Aug 24
20:25 Traviscoob joined the tribe.
Aug 24
20:25 shanobi1 (deleted) has been invited by Knight Mare (deleted).
Aug 24
20:24 Traviscoob has been invited by Knight Mare (deleted).
Aug 24
20:24 The tribe was founded by Knight Mare (deleted).


Strangely enough it has the founder of TEAM as the founder of TEAM Virtus on August 24 2009.

So the game itself considers considers this as a long progression of the tribe TEAM


Exhibit C

Click on any link on the external forums, for the original Tribe TEAM ( such as milestones or search for any other one) , and it will automatically bring you to either TEAM VIRTUS tribal page on twstats.co.uk or the tribal page in game. Both of which have not changed id numbers from the original tribe.


The simple fact is Virtus disbanded and merged into TEAM. The name was changed ever so slightly to welcome these new members.

GF have been waffling on less about the disbandment of Virtus that DOGS have about the moronic idea that TEAM have disbanded.

What's next? You guys change your name to DOGS of Glory instead of Dogs of War and we claim victory?

 

[DeletedUser]

All very nice but your point

 

[DeletedUser]

show me team on the ranks!

show me a team member playing today?

u cant, so ipso facto TEAM are dead.

 

[DeletedUser]

Sorry nobbler, but I just don't see how you can logically argue with the evidence posted by pcrasplot.

Imagine, from a philosophical arguement, that I change my name - does that mean I no longer exist? I think not.

It's a name change, yes it went with a member change, but the tribe is still there, albeit under a modified moniker.

If -TV- was not a reincarnation of TEAM, how then can -TV- have the following stat, when you claim they exist only post TEAM-Virtus merge?
Best Rank: 1. 08th November 2009

It's a tired old argument which isn't productive, so why not all just let it go? I'd say that it's getting boring now, but it became boring a while back.

 

[DeletedUser]

Well....On one-side I don't see how a tribe with the same members in it can be any different than before. TEAM merged-in Virtus so all their "original" members are still there. Seems a tad bit petty to try and call it a "Fall". imo


But on the flip side of that,this would mean to me that Virtus are the ones that left their tribe and merged with TEAM (making TV). So that contradicts Virtus claim that GF did not outlast them,and I would call GF victors in that fight. And on the same note it would mean TEAM would only have "thrived" through the demise of their closest allies and their "forced merge" into them.

As for the thread topic itself-
I see TV as the new TEAM and they will have a lot of work ahead of them. Smartest thing they ever did was focus on the north and create themselves a front to grow on without much of a fight. A lot in this world will depend on each tribes ability to handle in-actives,this I think will make or break all top tribes in this world.

 

[DeletedUser]

Many a true word said, frizzy.

And I do agree on the fact that GF have to be seen as victors in their battles with Virtus/ -TV- to date.

Still, all that matters is the future - we can mould the future, but the past is history....(if that isn't part of a famous quote, it should be!!!!)

 

[DeletedUser6488]

So any thoughts from peeps on wether -TV- will Thrive or Fail given the tribes now activly a war with them

what you all think have they enough to handle it and come out the other side the better tribe
or have they simply bit off more than they can chew ???

 

[DeletedUser7179]

I think they are proving there is more than one way to be rimmed!! Noble your way there lol!

 

[DeletedUser]

or have they simply bit off more than they can chew ???

GF and W~A~R both declared war on TV. We gave our best efforts to diplomacy with W~A~R, but let's be honest shaun, you guys broke the treaty and declared war on us. We were not the aggressors in either of these wars, so as a point of fact, we did not bite off anything. But hey it sounds better for you guys right?

I think they are proving there is more than one way to be rimmed!! Noble your way there lol!

If you look at any map, you can easily see that all the tribes we are currently fighting, are fighting us from the rim, inwards to the core. So basically our only option is to fight out towards the rim direction as best as possible through the enemies.

Unless you would like us to leapfrog these tribes, and teleport our nobles to the rim, bypassing our enemies by nobling, at what around 180 hours away, to do as you say Noble your way there lol! Make any sense to anybody? No me neither!

lol indeed.

 

[DeletedUser7179]

I can see the map! and I see a hell of a lot of W~A~R and DOGS villas nowhere near the rim!

 

[DeletedUser]

This is a completely POINTLESS argument, lets be honest - who cares if -TV- are going outwards or whatever? The only way they would go inwards is if they were to noble themselves?

But ANYWAY, back to the point.
I believe that -TV-, although abundant with skilled players, will eventually fall. However, I am not saying this is with or without its minor differentiations along the way - but eventually the good players will turn tail and run, and the smaller players will be left to be eaten >

 

[DeletedUser]

At last, an intelligent honest post. Can't say I agree with your point but at least it's flame free.

 

[DeletedUser]

-TV- might be losing on several fronts but is still growing. Gains still outnumber Losts. Will -TV- Fall ? Defenitly not in the near future.

but eventually the good players will turn tail and run

So you think. A good dozen of people will stay in -TV- till there last vill is gone. Including me, I've only one tribechange and aim to keep it that way. I said a dozen, because let's face it, every tribe has it's cowards running away. Anyways untill every 'good player' will be rimmed (and let's be honnest, that won't happen.), -TV- will outlast time and space.

 

[DeletedUser]

You might be growing, nobling faster than you're losing, but the fact is that most of the villages you're nobling are barbs. Barbs have to be built up, that takes a lot of time and effort and won't give you a full village of troops for far longer than a built up village. Think about it, you're growing on points, but what about troops?!

 

[DeletedUser]

Someone did not do his homework.

-TV- nobled 379 barbs in August

Dogs nobled 347 barbs in August

-TV- is 114 % the size of Dogs. 1.14 * 347 = 395

Dogs have been relatively nobling more barbs than Team did. This is just an example, I can't be bothered to do this for all tribes .. Stop talking rubbish ballz