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I see the slight contradiction but I hadn't editted the original post after speaking with OE in regards to the mechanics and whatnot of his strategy.
My apologies
My apologies
Even if we're talking HC strat I don't like OE's numbers.
1940 HC
9095 spears
My HC Strat:
Build Time: 8.42 days
My Rebuild-time: 6.79 days
OE's HC Strat:
Build Time: 10.19 days
Rebuild Time: 8.46 days
As shown mine takes less time to rebuild after killing a full nuke than his takes to build, from scratch.
Thanks Withering, I have seen that in when I test builds on the sim, some do better than other is minimal ways, but most defend quite the same and have about the same loss of troops for the offense attacking. There is no perfect build and there never will be, even if you kill 100 more axes, I can almost bet you are going to have another 7000 coming at you soon.
I pulled these power stats from w17, and calculated the speeds by halving w17s (speed 1 world). Below in Figure 1 you will see Nauzhror's strategy. And in Figure 2 you will see the OE strategy.Even if we're talking HC strat I don't like OE's numbers.
1940 HC
9095 spears
My HC Strat:
Build Time: 8.42 days
My Rebuild-time: 6.79 days
OE's HC Strat:
Build Time: 10.19 days
Rebuild Time: 8.46 days
As shown mine takes less time to rebuild after killing a full nuke than his takes to build, from scratch.
EDIT: Re-simmed the above defenses and nukes on a non-archer world where the algorithm is different, math there is as follows:
My Defense:
16,673 pop killed
Rebuild Time: 6.77 days
OE's:
16,428 pop killed
Rebuild Time: 8.33 days
Also never understand why the low ram count with nukes as after 6 months or so you are going to be hitting at least 3 D per village even with fakes.
Both took 5 hits but the nuke you put me down as building would be ready to go again before your "nuke pack" plus I could send in any order from any village.
I also note that the wall was taken down in both on the 3rd hit so no gain there either.
Because it's more effective to use special wallbuster nukes and fewer rams in your normal nukes.
Below are two scenarios.
Your way:
Wave 1 (14.33 days):
Attacker Units: 0 0 5999 0 0 3309 0 0 300 0 0 0
Losses: 0 0 5999 0 0 3309 0 0 300 0 0 0
Defender Units: 19335 0 0 5592 0 0 0 6233 0 0 0 0
Losses: 2867 0 0 829 0 0 0 924 0 0 0 0
Damage by rams: The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 20 to level 17
Wave 2 (14.33 days):
Attacker Units: 0 0 5999 0 0 3309 0 0 300 0 0 0
Losses: 0 0 5999 0 0 3309 0 0 300 0 0 0
Defender Units: 16468 0 0 4763 0 0 0 5309 0 0 0 0
Losses: 3281 0 0 949 0 0 0 1058 0 0 0 0
Damage by rams: The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 17 to level 12
Wave 3 (14.33 days):
Attacker Units: 0 0 5999 0 0 3309 0 0 300 0 0 0
Losses: 0 0 5999 0 0 3309 0 0 300 0 0 0
Defender Units: 13187 0 0 3814 0 0 0 4251 0 0 0 0
Losses: 4318 0 0 1249 0 0 0 1392 0 0 0 0
Damage by rams: The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 12 to level 0
Wave 4 (14.33 days):
Attacker Units: 0 0 5999 0 0 3309 0 0 300 0 0 0
Losses: 0 0 5999 0 0 3309 0 0 300 0 0 0
Defender Units: 8869 0 0 2565 0 0 0 2859 0 0 0 0
Losses: 7303 0 0 2112 0 0 0 2354 0 0 0 0
Wave 5 (14.33 days):
Attacker Units: 0 0 5999 0 0 3309 0 0 300 0 0 0
Losses: 0 0 616 0 0 279 0 0 31 0 0 0
Defender Units: 1566 0 0 453 0 0 0 505 0 0 0 0
Losses: 1566 0 0 453 0 0 0 505 0 0 0 0
Scenario 2:
Wave 1 (15.41 days):
Attacker Units: 0 0 4907 0 0 2707 0 0 1000 0 0 0
Losses: 0 0 4907 0 0 2707 0 0 1000 0 0 0
Defender Units: 19335 0 0 5592 0 0 0 6233 0 0 0 0
Losses: 2130 0 0 616 0 0 0 687 0 0 0 0
Damage by rams: The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 20 to level 13
Wave 2 (14.66 days):
Attacker Units: 0 0 6130 0 0 3385 0 0 213 0 0 0
Losses: 0 0 6130 0 0 3385 0 0 213 0 0 0
Defender Units: 17205 0 0 4976 0 0 0 5546 0 0 0 0
Losses: 3700 0 0 1070 0 0 0 1193 0 0 0 0
Damage by rams: The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 13 to level 7
Wave 3 (14.66 days):
Attacker Units: 0 0 6130 0 0 3385 0 0 213 0 0 0
Losses: 0 0 6130 0 0 3385 0 0 213 0 0 0
Defender Units: 13505 0 0 3906 0 0 0 4353 0 0 0 0
Losses: 4919 0 0 1423 0 0 0 1586 0 0 0 0
Damage by rams: The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 7 to level 0
Wave 4 (14.66 days):
Attacker Units: 0 0 6130 0 0 3385 0 0 213 0 0 0
Losses: 0 0 6130 0 0 3385 0 0 213 0 0 0
Defender Units: 8586 0 0 2483 0 0 0 2767 0 0 0 0
Losses: 7674 0 0 2219 0 0 0 2473 0 0 0 0
Wave 5 (14.66 days):
Attacker Units: 0 0 6130 0 0 3385 0 0 213 0 0 0
Losses: 0 0 271 0 0 123 0 0 9 0 0 0
Defender Units: 912 0 0 264 0 0 0 294 0 0 0 0
Losses: 912 0 0 264 0 0 0 294 0 0 0 0
I feel the need to point out that OE isn't using archers in either of his, isn't that his guide for old world systems making the comparison obsolete?
Not really the point, he wouldn't have used them anyway as his method was solely intended for 15-tech worlds which would make most people not be able to comfortably research archers anyway.