mmm, without going down the imo knk are just good and not great purely because its the feeling i get, i propose a few points for knk to consider.
if a .net pervis/mattcur tribe is considered a 10/10 a amazing tribe, purely on how the tribe functions, can knk stake a claim to be more than good?
Nope. Nor do we!
out of knk players, are they any who can rumble with the best pound for pound start up players/mid game players/late game players.
Its purely subjective this bit. Late game is generally considered to be easier than startup. Our top players all know how to run a mid-late game account very well. Whether any are considered great or not, down to your own opinion. What I would say, is that we have a group of good players, with a few who I would class as very very good. Perhaps the sum is greater than the parts? Again, down to opinion.
Can anyone in knk say they can match or beat nauz/will/nick/mattcur/jchilds/dent at start up.
Nope, nor do we. Had this debate with Nauz before. Our strategy at startup is based on the collective at startup, and not the individual like most do. Of course everyone has to work on their individual growth, but from the first moment on a world were looking at what is the best course of action as a tribe.
can anyone in knk sat they can match similar top fo thier mid game/late game players?
Answered this above.
I would argue no, so just the spotlight on a player base can we say knk are good but not great? imo yes.
I agree. Good, but not great.
As a leadership, are whoever the dukes of knk are comparable to the top leaders, erm from what i hear they are good and run a steady ship, amazing? well if i asked people out side on knk who the best leaders are, im not sure i would hear those names, so would the words stringer than just good be used? possibly not.
Again, down to individual opinion. The ones who truly know how well we run a tribe are our members. To a lesser extent, our enemies will know too. I dont think of myself as a great leader, never have. I enjoyed leading, and I enjoyed seeing the enjoyment our hard work gave to a great group of people.
as team work is concerned i would say this is a knk strength, all members pulling their weight is super, but ive seen noob tribes all wanting to get involved, but again if the player level is poor a grand nub effort. not that knk are noobs, just im sure you understand the concept im trying to explain.
Quite simply, we were a group of decent/good players who understood that TW is a team game, and its entirely about teamwork. Add to that a good level of organistion and efficiency, and we were successful.
Style, what i mean is, some tribes, and not even world winners, have a reputation for things, a great tribe for me is one of a low diplo high agression mentality. W1n has some great players, along with some very poor ones, thier style was well used diplomacy to win the world, and some worthwhile players doing the business on tribes who they didnt manage to gangbang/overwhelm, i respect w1n, but the best tribe around? not imo. knk merged with ally on w12 did they not? late game merges imo show weakness, diplomacy is a tool in ones tool box used to gain some form of advantage, but a tribe not in need of said tool is surely to be rated higher?
I never said w1n are the best tribe around. They are, to me, the best theres been on the UK servers. I know very little about .net, but I know there must be some awesome tribes over there. Never in a million years would I put KnK on their level! We did merge with our allies on W12. What you need to understand about W12, is that the main war had been fought and won. If we had fought our allies, everyone knew which way it would have gone. We wouldve beaten them, they accepted that. They fought hard alongside us against a tough enemy, and we decided together to share in the win. If thats a weakness, sharing in a win with a tribe that also deserves it and became friends, that one sits fine with me 
I dont think knk suck, and playing with one of their members id deffo disagree with anyone who says their members are just idiots who are active and work like a good team should.
Thanks
but i would call knk good, and a good tribe that has won worlds beating worse tribes.
I agree!
