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Let us start a tale, of a tribe who decided to decided to declare against us in the Avaz. Our wee little tribe of Avalonians has been somewhat overlooked by the critics, and we have enjoyed this peace to slowly build up our armies without getting too noticed.

A week or so ago, a friend of mine with a tiny 800 point village started getting attacks from some bigger players in the area, all from the same tribe, Aver.

Naturally, as I was sitting my unfortunate friends account, I wondered what the heck was going on! What risk did a small 800 point village pose to the neighbours? Well, I say neighbours, some of the attacks coming in were long range, not only that, they were losing more troops than what they were able to farm. (They seemed to have forgotten about a wee thing called morale...)

Fear the spear nuke!
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So, my dearest Kilroy was put to task to see what was going on...

Johnny And Kilroy on 12.08. at 10:49
Hello 01 - Pegasus.

Allow me to introduce myself, I am Kilroy, one - half of this account (incase you didn't gather that, which I am sure you did) and one-third of the Dukes of the Avaz tribe.

I have been informed from Urban Militia of the Avaz that he has been attacked by three seperate members from Aver.

Naturally, if this was an isolated incident, then I would not feel a need to message you, but with three members involved, it indicates a level of co-ordination. Additionally, Urban Militia does not pose a major threat in the area at this stage, so again, this hints that he was targetted.

Could you please confirm whether Aver have marked the Avaz as enemies? If so, then so be it, and if not then could you make sure these attacks do not happen again when the tree offending members have rebuilt?

I will take a failure to respond to this message as confirmation that we are now enemies.

Kilroy

01 - Pegasus on 12.08. at 12:03
Hey Kilroy

Thankyou for your mail, you are quiet right it is not an isolated incident.

Our Duke has declared war on your tribe has he was fed up of your members stealing the farms around him.

Kind Regards

Allana

Johnny And Kilroy on 12.08. at 12:08
Hello Allana.

Thankyou for your mail confirming that we are now at war, and I wish your tribe all the best . . . well, y'know, not really, but I'm a polite sort of chap.

All the best,

Kilroy
Stealing the dukes farms?! Omigodzorz!
Lets have a look at how many of our members are actually near the Aver duke, shall we?!

Avaz
Aver
gandolf the huge

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Stealing his farms? Jeeze, how much space does this dude want?! None of our members are even in his 15x15!

So fine, you want some enemies, you got some enemies... seems silly given that so few of our members are near Aver. :icon_rolleyes:

Attacks quietened down on our small friend, and all seemed quiet in the land. One of our members decided to take a pop at his nearest Aver village:

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He had some retaliation, not from Aver, but from O~O. O~O you say? What's that got to do with anything? Well, our man Red thought the same thing until, lo and behold, he received a curious mail!!

O~O tribe member on 17.08. at 20:34
Hi Red

I have attacked you and am thinking now that i have been possible set up. Our tribe has recently become allies with aver we hav had a nap for a long time and no trouble with them. They requested help or should i say one of them did jraughter as a true alliance we agreed. However he seems to have no support from his tribe and seems to be relying on us.
They say u have been attacking them and need help. I'm not sure i believe this.
Actions against u will cease from us and i appologise for loss of troops at this time. Can u help me understand the situation between your tribes.
Should hav asked this first but an alliance is just that and questions are not asked just support given.
But no support from your own tribe ??? Smells a bit rotten

will wait for your reply before any other action is taken

Again sry and thx for reading this if u hav

O~O tribe member
So what is this then? Declare on someone and get some new mates to do the dirty work?! Goodness me O~O, why oh why did you decide on alliance with such fiends!! Avaz started attacking Aver?! Dear oh dear, Aver, you do like the porky pies!

Redelboy on 17.08. at 23:43
We went to war with aver since 3 of their members attacked a friend of mine totally out of the blue. They gave no reason to why they attacked, until they said we nobled their dukes farms, wait for it, no one in his 15 x 15, which we checked so not even the case. These can use their so called alliance to get others to do their dirty work. At least 6 to 8 players in their tribe are old friends from different worlds and I mailed one of them, and they were kept out of the loop.
I say, trust your instinct, and your tribe. The only time I attacked them was today, please feel free to ask them for reports to prove otherwise.

Red.
And keeping your own members out the loop? Dictatorships rarely work 'yo!

O~O tribe member today at 07:06
They have poduced atacks on Jraughter and no other evidence has come forward
I will take no further action in this dispute and i belive his tribe will not get involved as they hav not responded as far as i can tell yo his calls 4 hlp.

Not sure if free trade is up but if it is will send resources to u in form of compensation.

Should hav smelt a rat from the off!!
Accept my appologise for the attacks was working off trust within an alliance :(

Can we say this matter is closed except for any help u need to regain what was destroyed taken ?
Being backhanded doesn't win you any friends Aver!

At this juncture, I will point out the stats, which no doubt somebody will start bleating about:

Side 1:
Tribes: Avaz
Players:

Side 2:
Tribes: AVER
Players:

Timeframe: Forever

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 0
Side 2: 7
Difference: 7

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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 0
Side 2: 42,784
Difference: 42,784

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On the surface, it looks brilliant for Aver. However... note that all the villages that were taken were from inactive members, who have consequently been removed from our tribe. They weren't even brave enough to take on the active members of our tribe. Just like nobling barbs! Oh correction, they did pick on our little Urban Militia... but picking on someone that size isn't exactly admirable. (I'm obviously speaking to those of you with morals, and those of you who see the skill in taking on a player your own size.)

Wanting further fuel to add to the PnP, Kilroy went off to taunt the Aver Duchess...

Johnny And Kilroy today at 13:18
Hello again m'dear.

I'd just like to make you aware that my co-Duke, Jojomodjo, is making a rather humourous piece of PnP on our war that will go on the publics, and so being the loveable buffoon that I am I thought I should make you aware in case a defence of your reasons for going to war with us when we aren't actually that close to Gandolf the Huge.

Kilroy
01 - Pegasus today at 13:21
Hey Kilroy

We arent at war with anymore, we have bigger fish to fry, feel free, and I know who you are x
Ominous ending, but we took it to mean that they actually don't want to fight us any more. Oh, okay then. Not that we saw much point in it anyway. Seems a shame that all this lovely PnP has been written for nowt, I had intended it to be far longer, but as "war" is over, there is little point continuing. Rather than let it go to waste, I thought I would share it with you. Perhaps it will serve as a giggle to the bigger fish, or maybe it will make Aver members realise how rubbish their tribe really is. Or maybe O~O will see Aver for the rapscallions that they are!

So bigger fish that are apparently getting fried, I would wish you luck, but evidently, I doubt you'll need it. :icon_wink:
 
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DeletedUser

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SLAP! have had a similar experience with AVER. They don't like getting their own hands dirty, so they just send other tribes to do all the work for them.
 

DeletedUser6695

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Aver are a fail tribe =]

btw that google thing was cool
 

DeletedUser

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Commendation from a member of Aver?! Bless you dearest Sirihar!

Well, it is good PnP.

Though there are a few things which could get carried to certain people by whispers in the wind.
 

DeletedUser

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lmao!!!! AVER are crap :lol:

we are a small 200k ish tribe and they are all around us. i was nobling a villa when krazeekat went in and took it on low loyalty so i attacked and attacked until they killed my noble. (but i cleared krazee and other members of troops)
so others decided to join in send nukes scouts etc but only one nuke hit and the rest defended quiet well...by myself :icon_cool:

these guys are not to good at the game so best of luck and good pnp :icon_biggrin:
 

DeletedUser360

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Belstars, thanks for your story, you sound like a great player. Be nice to see reports. I have checked you out and you grown 65k ODD on saturday. Any nobles or were they just clearing your troops?
 

DeletedUser

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Belstars, thanks for your story, you sound like a great player. Be nice to see reports. I have checked you out and you grown 65k ODD on saturday. Any nobles or were they just clearing your troops?

If it's like some of the attacks our members had, if there is nobles they will be poorly escorted. One of our members has killed 8 of Aver's nobles, because they send such awful escorts. (and separate attacks too, I don't think they've heard of trains either...)
 

DeletedUser

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SLAP! have had a similar experience with AVER. They don't like getting their own hands dirty, so they just send other tribes to do all the work for them.

The problem with the war with Slap! was that there was only a few members from each side that were anywhere near each other.
 

DeletedUser

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Belstars, thanks for your story, you sound like a great player. Be nice to see reports. I have checked you out and you grown 65k ODD on saturday. Any nobles or were they just clearing your troops?

hi sean, no nobles but i nearly took 2 villas off them but they stacked and i missed out on low loyalty. mail me in game if you need any reports :icon_biggrin:
 

DeletedUser

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There's nothing wrong with AVER as a whole, it's the leadership (or should I say dictatorship) that lets them down.

For a start they are all related, making this more like familywars than tribalwars. One of the barons is the son of the Duke and Duchess (reek of bias, anyone?), and if anyone dares to disagree with anything said Duke or Duchess decide they want to do, their comments/threads in the forums are deleted. If they continue to disagree, they are then kicked from the tribe.

Take out the leaders and you actually have a very nice bunch of people. None of this surprises me at all.
 

DeletedUser117

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There's nothing wrong with AVER as a whole, it's the leadership (or should I say dictatorship) that lets them down.

Only way to run some tribes is via dictatorship - that way everyone knows what everyone else is supposed to do. Most often the hardest thing about leading a tribe, is ensuring the members do what you tell them to.

If someone is getting attacked you need to ensure everyone sends D. Not have half the tribe refuse and play their own way. I am not excusing the fact that AVER is / maybe a bad tribe, just saying dictatorship over a council or group of leaders (with different) thoughts wins every time.
 

DeletedUser

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Not have half the tribe refuse and play their own way. I am not excusing the fact that AVER is / maybe a bad tribe, just saying dictatorship over a council or group of leaders (with different) thoughts wins every time.

Aver have a council as well.
 

DeletedUser

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Well you do need firm leadership to keep 160+ members in line.
 

DeletedUser

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Well you do need firm leadership to keep 160+ members in line.
Some suggestions which have been open to tribe discussion suddenly disappear and the tribe is told it is happening, regardless whether most members like it or not.
 

DeletedUser117

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Well stop suggesting they disband then

But I seriously dont get this, maybe cause I am new in W5 but. . .

From tribal profile
As a pledge, to the wars we love, and the warriors we are, we will forever honor the enemies that fight as fiercely as we do, and die for their loyalties as we will. This is not a tombstone but a place where we will always remember our greatest enemies and the fight they gave us.

T~F~17th
MILF~20th
BP~8th
Why?~1st R.I.P. To our greatest challenge!

To the great full dead


Yet looking at their conquers:
they gained 10 and lost 7 - how in blazes can that be a great victory :icon_rolleyes:
 
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