Revealed

[DeletedUser1508]

Grettings citizens of w5 forums. I am Reduaram, and in this thread I will try to show you why Why? is not the elite and insanely skillful tribe that they would like us to think they are.

But first, I would like to take this time to reveal the account that I have been playing. And yes, the rumours are true. I am playing the Via Dolorosa account. I have never had a co-player, and I only had a sitter for the first couple of weeks (A big thanks to the guys playing the Who are you account).

Anyway, as an entrée, I would like to address the recent leaving thread created by n00bek, one of Why?'s more vocal members on these forums.

Spoiler: n00bek shows why he is a n00b

No ms removes the little amount of skill that could be used, and having 7k barbs ultimately removes the advantages of nobling other players. Consequently the world is full of farm-munchers who have never sent an axe towards another player in their life. Growing barbs in general I dislike, but up to 2k or so is acceptable. However, 7k is utterly ridiculous. It has ended up going like this: noobs turtle, noble farms, turtle, noble farms. This, coupled with the low morale makes it almost impossible to take their villages without losing stupid amounts of offense. Plus, it makes really awful players look good.

/rant over.

You know, out of n00bek's nine conquers at this stage, six were abandoned, and five of those were under 4k points. So what gives him the right to complain about farm-munchers? Hypocrite much?

Another thing is that he says this world requires no skill. Well, he is right, if you are mostly nobling barbarians. In any case, this world requires a slightly different skill set to other worlds, a skill set that it sounds like n00bek did not have... because when a player complains about a world while quitting, it is generally a form of excuse.

He also complains about low morale... but that is a problem in any world when you try to attack players much much smaller than you. So I am wondering why n00bek is trying to noble tiny players, and when failing that, nobles barbarian villages.
Besides, he has players near him that even I have decent morale against. But maybe he is just afraid of them... even despite his next comments.

I consider the world to be over already, nobody can remove us from top spot. The coalition fell apart before sending an attack. We own 3 of the 4 core continents. We have more villages, more points, and more OD than any other tribe. We have 8 of the top 10. We win. Simples.

And yet you keep nobling barbarian villages. Sad. Read down farther for my explaination for why you apparently dominate.

My account will remain active, but it won't be me playing. I am handing the account over to somebody. Good luck to Why?, though they dont need it, and will probably quit soon anyway due to mass boredom on this boring, turtle-noobing world.

Rage quit = fail. Good luck on other worlds n00bek, you will probably need it.

So a Why? member clearly shows his 'holier than thou' attitude towards the rest of us. Obviously when anyone else nobles a barbarian village, it is 'farm-munching', and when he does it, it is just good strategy. Accused, tried, and found guilty of hypocritism. Recommended sentence, ridicule and mockery. But, no time to linger and carry out his sentence now. We must advance to the main dish, the reason I think Why? do not really deserve their rank 1 spot.


So, Why? is currently the best tribe in the world. But how did they get there? By crushing their enemies? Perhaps. By outgrowing the rest of the world? Maybe. There are probably a number of reasons for Why?'s apparent success, but I think that the most influential reason is that they have merged and recruited their way to the top.

Sure, there are a number of Why's original members in the top 20, but there are also a number of those that they recruited along the way. When their pressure on sWARm caused it to disband, Why? was pretty quick to snatch up thier top players. So let's take a look at some of Why?'s imports.

Spoiler: Why? recruits to stay on top

Tribalwars Player Profile: balzi (Rank 12 when joining Why?)
Old tribe New tribe Date/Time Points
None Blood 01st June 2010 - 17:09:52 46
Blood Why? 12th July 2010 - 02:26:11 39,912


Tribalwars Player Profile: jptno7 (Rank 14 when joining Why?)
Old tribe New tribe Date/Time Points
None Grrr? 01st June 2010 - 20:18:11 48
Grrr? sWARm 08th June 2010 - 16:39:57 295
sWARm None 10th July 2010 - 17:06:49 31,966
None Why? 10th July 2010 - 23:04:59 32,510


Tribalwars Player Profile: JohnGlasgow (Rank 16 when joining Why?)
Old tribe New tribe Date/Time Points
None [TL] 02nd June 2010 - 17:00:21 64
[TL] sWARm 13th June 2010 - 19:56:46 823
sWARm Why? 10th July 2010 - 20:00:48 30,749


Tribalwars Player Profile: Vietnamese-Dragon (Rank 24 when joining Why?)
Old tribe New tribe Date/Time Points
None BSA 03rd June 2010 - 23:32:59 92
BSA None 06th June 2010 - 22:55:45 312
None sWARm 08th June 2010 - 16:40:01 363
sWARm Why? 10th July 2010 - 04:58:48 23,319


Tribalwars Player Profile: shadycat (Rank 11 when joining Why?)
Old tribe New tribe Date/Time Points
None WOW 01st June 2010 - 23:34:08 49
WOW NUTS!! 12th June 2010 - 19:49:57 623
NUTS!! *T~B* 28th June 2010 - 20:04:26 10,437
*T~B* None 04th July 2010 - 16:55:08 21,367
None sWARm 04th July 2010 - 19:56:46 21,504
sWARm None 11th July 2010 - 04:58:58 39,173
None Why! 11th July 2010 - 14:00:02 39,727
Why! EWaR 16th July 2010 - 20:10:06 38,729



Tribalwars Player Profile: n00bek (Rank 65 when joining Why?)
Old tribe New tribe Date/Time Points
None TRiBE 08th June 2010 - 16:40:01 70
TRiBE None 08th June 2010 - 20:10:26 80
None TEWHUG 10th June 2010 - 23:04:44 187
TEWHUG sWARm 12th June 2010 - 22:52:07 344
sWARm ...? 06th July 2010 - 20:06:41 11,192
...? Why? 06th July 2010 - 23:11:19 11,347


Tribalwars Player Profile: charlotteharlot (Rank 9 when joining Why?)
Old tribe New tribe Date/Time Points
None ZD 03rd June 2010 - 07:45:38 78
ZD NUKE! 14th June 2010 - 23:12:10 901
NUKE! None 02nd July 2010 - 02:18:41 10,800
None Why? 02nd July 2010 - 23:01:31 14,807


Tribalwars Player Profile: petepij (Rank 20 when joining Why?)
Old tribe New tribe Date/Time Points
None WOW 02nd June 2010 - 23:13:51 61
WOW ~LGA~ 18th June 2010 - 23:14:30 1,186
~LGA~ None 02nd July 2010 - 02:18:41 6,416
None ~LGA~ 02nd July 2010 - 19:54:43 8,938
~LGA~ None 08th July 2010 - 20:08:29 16,888
None sWARm 08th July 2010 - 23:17:38 16,908
sWARm ZD 11th July 2010 - 22:58:19 29,425
ZD Why? 20th July 2010 - 02:35:50 51,503

Sure, they made sWARm disband and they can pat themselves on the back for being top in the world until their backs and hands ache, but it is a pretty hollow achievement. They only half did the job. They then gave in to rank and pointwhoring and took sWARm's high ranking members in, instead of taking them out.

So when I look at Why? now, I just see a tribe that is rank 1 because of their recruitment policy. And this is the question that I have on my mind... Why does Why?, who is apparently dominating w5, have to recruit from their enemies instead of rimming them. Is it fear of losing the top spot? Love of points and ranks? Well, whatever it is, it isn't working well for them because. Now Why? has the problem that their members are getting bored and starting to quit. And I agree, I would probably leave a tribe that recruits like that.

Anyway, I think that if they want excitement, they should stop nobling barbarian villages (aprox 50% so far) and start taking out some decent enemies. Try take out EwaR. Oh, but wait. I forgot that you have nobled enough barbarians so that you have the low morale excuse...

So there it is. Why? is really just another mass-recruiting tribe. The only difference between them and most other tribes in the world is that they mass-recruit points instead of members. And my final comment/question about their recruitment is:

EDIT FOR PART TWO

So, new developments lately. I just checked Why?'s recent tribal changes, and noticed that there have been several additions since I gathered my initial data for this thread. So, lets take a look, shall we?

Spoiler: More recruitment

Tribalwars Player Profile: kingfarrow(Rank 12 when joining)
Old tribe New tribe Date/Time Points
None ~LGA~ 17th June 2010 - 19:51:56 568
~LGA~ None 13th July 2010 - 10:58:03 31,582
None Meow 17th July 2010 - 02:34:55 44,583
Meow Why? 20th July 2010 - 23:31:54 66,546


Tribalwars Player Profile: thedave (Rank 24 when joining)
Old tribe New tribe Date/Time Points
None IS 02nd June 2010 - 23:13:52 63
IS ZD 12th June 2010 - 16:47:04 480
ZD Why? 21st July 2010 - 02:36:30 48,810

And Monty tries to tell me that they don't hunt out high ranked players... I am finding that harder and harder to believe, especially when kingfarrow tells me that he was asked to join the tribe. Although, I will post his mail here so you guys can read...

i did ask them wen i was in my first tribe LGA but didnt ear nuffing bk,an then i got a mail from that menber bout mabey joing so dunno if its cuz i asked all them weeks ago or wat mate

Obviously, when he wasn't ranked very high, his recruitment mail was ignored. Then, when he is top 20... BAM! They want him!

Anyway, it seems that I have raised a bit of an issue within Why? (or maybe it was there previously), because MontyPython was worried enough to tell his tribe this:

A lot of you are worried about recruitment. We are NOT recruiting any more. If anything, member levels will drop. It's time to kick ass, not limit the ass kicking.

Yet, let's have a look at the time of this post compared to when thedave joined the tribe. I find it rather interesting.

21st July 2010 - 02:36:30

In addition, they recruited 5 oClock Sunset after MontyPython told his tribe that they were "NOT recruiting any more".

So, Monty, just answer this question for me please, because your credibility might be on the line...

 

[DeletedUser]

...

Now this was well written and full of good points, I actully read the whole thing. I've just play'd w5 for 3-5 days now and i've come to the same conclusion aswell. However, there is alot of skilled players in Why? and they shoulden't be taken lightly even with his faulty recruitment policy.

Anyway good post Red

 

[DeletedUser]

Woo it's flame Why? day today. (inb4commentonhowWhy?playersflameothertribes)

Why have you quit?

Also, please do tell me when the top 10 Why? players joined Why? (excluding Balzi/Jptno7)

If you took out all of those recruits Why? would still be rank 1 btw.

Edit: You've nobled 7 barbs if you didn't know.
You only have 50K ODA if you didn't know.
(Yes I know ODA is not a measure of skill but it does show you've not attacked anything much)

 

[DeletedUser]

Try to take out EWaR sounds like fun

 

[DeletedUser]

I see what you did with that last bit . It does show Why? in a different light and i'd like to see how they react to this. I've also noticed they merged/recruited some of the top players from NoHope who were prominent in K34/44 (Not criticizing, it was just an observation). As for the PnP, it was a good read but i would prefer more images as it seems like a wall of text to me, although this is probably down to it being 3 in the morning.

 

[DeletedUser1508]

Now this was well written and full of good points, I actully read the whole thing. I've just play'd w5 for 3-5 days now and i've come to the same conclusion aswell. However, there is alot of skilled players in Why? and they shoulden't be taken lightly even with his faulty recruitment policy.


Anyway good post Red

Well, welcome to w5. Also, I know that Why? still has some good players. The focus of my post wasn't so much against the players as the tribe.

Woo it's flame Why? day today. (inb4commentonhowWhy?playersflameothertribes)

Why have you quit?

Also, please do tell me when the top 10 Why? players joined Why? (excluding Balzi/Jptno7)

If you took out all of those recruits Why? would still be rank 1 btw.

Edit: You've nobled 7 barbs if you didn't know.
You only have 50K ODA if you didn't know.
(Yes I know ODA is not a measure of skill but it does show you've not attacked anything much)

I haven't quit.

I never said that your top 10 were recruits.

Maybe, maybe not. Remember that if these guys weren't in Why?, then they would be in another tribe. And also hindering your growth to some degree.

I know I have nobled barbs. However, I am not the one complaing of boredom. Nor the one complaining about people nobling my farms. Also, low ODA doesn't have much to do with anything. In this case it means that I have nobled people when their troops aren't in their village. And I don't chase ODA. If I don't need to clear something, I don't.

So what is your point?

 

[DeletedUser7549]

Very nice PnP!

 

[DeletedUser]

Point is basically;
Why? is the best tribe on this world.
I'm sure you know that.

All tribe's do have flaws.
Even those silly elitist 10 person tribes(not the current ones as they're worse than the mass-recruiters tbh.)

 

[DeletedUser]

Point is basically;
Why? is the best tribe on this world.
I'm sure you know that.

All tribe's do have flaws.
Even those silly elitist 10 person tribes(not the current ones as they're worse than the mass-recruiters tbh.)

Im beginning to think Why? aren't the best, they just hold the points for the rank 1

 

[DeletedUser1508]

Wrong, Tribe is the best tribe. Why? is just warming the rank 1 spot for now

 

[DeletedUser]

Nice post and nice way of revealing yourself too!

Completely agree with you about the skills involved playing this world.

 

[DeletedUser]

With no MS timing there isn't much skill left.

 

[DeletedUser]

Well, welcome to w5. Also, I know that Why? still has some good players. The focus of my post wasn't so much against the players as the tribe.

Thx, not playing that seriously tough. Was just makeing sure. I get the impression that less than half is good enough to be called skilled. So the rankings will probbably change soon.

Point is basically;
Why? is the best tribe on this world.
I'm sure you know that.

All tribe's do have flaws.
Even those silly elitist 10 person tribes(not the current ones as they're worse than the mass-recruiters tbh.)

Oh really? Their best cause they recruit players with lots of points ehh? You must be one of the worst player i've ever has registered on this forum. Why? Is far from the best tribe in w5, i would say its probbably equal to the other decent tribes but nothing more. And don't bother writeing back, this is probbably to long for you to read anyway. (Refering to tl:dr you keep writeing)

EDIT: There isin't really much decent tribes in w5 anymore, but quite frankly why? Doesen't seem like a decent tribe anymore aswell:|. Heck, i cheer for tribe or meow if they put their mind into i sure it could be quite average fight.

 

[DeletedUser]

That is indeed a very good piece of work I must say Joe, and to be honest I must agree with you 100% in some cases many people think of one skill however there are several to overcome and players such as this guy have not seen that, true or false?
I being a member of TW for several years have still not mastered all the skills as of new worlds means new settings which mean new skills. Maybe a lot of you need to sot back and think about what your saying and do before complaining or assuming that you ''have won'', so bare this in mind.

Once again a very nice read.

 

[DeletedUser]

But, no time to linger and carry out his sentence now. We must advance to the main dish, the reason I think Why? do not really deserve their rank 1 spot.

So, Why? is currently the best tribe in the world. But how did they get there? By crushing their enemies? Perhaps. By outgrowing the rest of the world? Maybe. There are probably a number of reasons for Why?'s apparent success, but I think that the most influential reason is that they have merged and recruited their way to the top.

Sure, there are a number of Why's original members in the top 20, but there are also a number of those that they recruited along the way. When their pressure on sWARm caused it to disband, Why? was pretty quick to snatch up thier top players. So let's take a look at some of Why?'s imports.

Spoiler: Why? recruits to stay on top

Tribalwars Player Profile: balzi (Rank 12 when joining Why?)
Old tribe New tribe Date/Time Points
None Blood 01st June 2010 - 17:09:52 46
Blood Why? 12th July 2010 - 02:26:11 39,912


Tribalwars Player Profile: jptno7 (Rank 14 when joining Why?)
Old tribe New tribe Date/Time Points
None Grrr? 01st June 2010 - 20:18:11 48
Grrr? sWARm 08th June 2010 - 16:39:57 295
sWARm None 10th July 2010 - 17:06:49 31,966
None Why? 10th July 2010 - 23:04:59 32,510


Tribalwars Player Profile: JohnGlasgow (Rank 16 when joining Why?)
Old tribe New tribe Date/Time Points
None [TL] 02nd June 2010 - 17:00:21 64
[TL] sWARm 13th June 2010 - 19:56:46 823
sWARm Why? 10th July 2010 - 20:00:48 30,749


Tribalwars Player Profile: Vietnamese-Dragon (Rank 24 when joining Why?)
Old tribe New tribe Date/Time Points
None BSA 03rd June 2010 - 23:32:59 92
BSA None 06th June 2010 - 22:55:45 312
None sWARm 08th June 2010 - 16:40:01 363
sWARm Why? 10th July 2010 - 04:58:48 23,319


Tribalwars Player Profile: shadycat (Rank 11 when joining Why?)
Old tribe New tribe Date/Time Points
None WOW 01st June 2010 - 23:34:08 49
WOW NUTS!! 12th June 2010 - 19:49:57 623
NUTS!! *T~B* 28th June 2010 - 20:04:26 10,437
*T~B* None 04th July 2010 - 16:55:08 21,367
None sWARm 04th July 2010 - 19:56:46 21,504
sWARm None 11th July 2010 - 04:58:58 39,173
None Why! 11th July 2010 - 14:00:02 39,727
Why! EWaR 16th July 2010 - 20:10:06 38,729



Tribalwars Player Profile: n00bek (Rank 65 when joining Why?)
Old tribe New tribe Date/Time Points
None TRiBE 08th June 2010 - 16:40:01 70
TRiBE None 08th June 2010 - 20:10:26 80
None TEWHUG 10th June 2010 - 23:04:44 187
TEWHUG sWARm 12th June 2010 - 22:52:07 344
sWARm ...? 06th July 2010 - 20:06:41 11,192
...? Why? 06th July 2010 - 23:11:19 11,347


Tribalwars Player Profile: charlotteharlot (Rank 9 when joining Why?)
Old tribe New tribe Date/Time Points
None ZD 03rd June 2010 - 07:45:38 78
ZD NUKE! 14th June 2010 - 23:12:10 901
NUKE! None 02nd July 2010 - 02:18:41 10,800
None Why? 02nd July 2010 - 23:01:31 14,807


Tribalwars Player Profile: petepij (Rank 20 when joining Why?)
Old tribe New tribe Date/Time Points
None WOW 02nd June 2010 - 23:13:51 61
WOW ~LGA~ 18th June 2010 - 23:14:30 1,186
~LGA~ None 02nd July 2010 - 02:18:41 6,416
None ~LGA~ 02nd July 2010 - 19:54:43 8,938
~LGA~ None 08th July 2010 - 20:08:29 16,888
None sWARm 08th July 2010 - 23:17:38 16,908
sWARm ZD 11th July 2010 - 22:58:19 29,425
ZD Why? 20th July 2010 - 02:35:50 51,503

Firstly, when did we recruit to the top. As far as I remember, we've recruited while being on top. A bit different, but nonetheless, we didn't recruit our way to the top.

Yes, we took in a good bit of sWARm, but did we take the whole tribe? No. Why did we take a few? Because there were bigger fish to fry, and that was a tactical move.

Lastly about recruiting, shadycat is NOT in Why?. If you paid as much attention to detail as you do your ignorant criticism, you'd know aye?

Sure, they made sWARm disband and they can pat themselves on the back for being top in the world until their backs and hands ache, but it is a pretty hollow achievement. They only half did the job. They then gave in to rank and pointwhoring and took sWARm's high ranking members in, instead of taking them out.

Pointwhoring aye, another ignorant judgement.

So when I look at Why? now, I just see a tribe that is rank 1 because of their recruitment policy. And this is the question that I have on my mind... Why does Why?, who is apparently dominating w5, have to recruit from their enemies instead of rimming them. Is it fear of losing the top spot? Love of points and ranks? Well, whatever it is, it isn't working well for them because. Now Why? has the problem that their members are getting bored and starting to quit. And I agree, I would probably leave a tribe that recruits like that.

We're rank 1 because we have team work, organization and a good head on each of our shoulders. If we had such a "bad" recruitment policy, we'd invite the whole top 20. No. Do I go out and send invites? No. Do I ask people to join? No. Would I invite you because you're rank 2? No. Why not? Because it's not a tactical move.

Yes, a few have quit. Let me count, three. Oh no, there goes the tribe.

Anyway, I think that if they want excitement, they should stop nobling barbarian villages (aprox 50% so far) and start taking out some decent enemies. Try take out EwaR. Oh, but wait. I forgot that you have nobled enough barbarians so that you have the low morale excuse...

So there it is. Why? is really just another mass-recruiting tribe. The only difference between them and most other tribes in the world is that they mass-recruit points instead of members. And my final comment/question about their recruitment is:

There you go again, ignorant judgement. Maybe in the eyes of an elitist, it would be mass-recruiting. But what can I say. We have a whopping 44 members on an unlimited tribe limit world.

Why do we recruit good players? I'll answer. Because We Can.

I never said that your top 10 were recruits.

Maybe, maybe not. Remember that if these guys weren't in Why?, then they would be in another tribe. And also hindering your growth to some degree.

I know I have nobled barbs. However, I am not the one complaing of boredom. Nor the one complaining about people nobling my farms. Also, low ODA doesn't have much to do with anything. In this case it means that I have nobled people when their troops aren't in their village. And I don't chase ODA. If I don't need to clear something, I don't.

So what is your point?

A good point would be, you criticize us for not taking out all of our enemies. Yet, you yourself haven't done much of any significance. You want to see reports of clearings and nobling. Yes, we've nobled our share of barbs, but you don't double others' OD by that do you. So what is it Red, criticize for points, or criticize for ODA. Both?

Wrong, Tribe is the best tribe. Why? is just warming the rank 1 spot for now

Im beginning to think Why? aren't the best, they just hold the points for the rank 1

Why? is the best tribe. You may not believe it, but it is. You guys want proof, we will give you proof. Enough waiting, the wait is about the be over.

Oh really? Their best cause they recruit players with lots of points ehh? You must be one of the worst player i've ever has registered on this forum. Why? Is far from the best tribe in w5, i would say its probbably equal to the other decent tribes but nothing more. And don't bother writeing back, this is probbably to long for you to read anyway. (Refering to tl:dr you keep writeing)

Keep your grudge against Cody away. What makes others tribes better? ZD, because they recruit worse players. Red, because he has a speckle of a tribe? Maybe EWaR? Because they have the name elite.

Other than that, good PnP. Because it did what it was meant to do. Use pointless judgement to sway the opinions of others. And that's what it did. You guys want to prove we're not the best. Hell, take a shot.

 

[DeletedUser]

Other than that, good PnP. Because it did what it was meant to do. Use pointless judgement to sway the opinions of others. And that's what it did. You guys want to prove we're not the best. Hell, take a shot.

Side 1:
Tribes: EWaR
Players:

Side 2:
Tribes: Why?
Players: ll

Timeframe: Forever

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 7
Side 2: 6
Difference: 1

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 26,600
Side 2: 21,357
Difference: 5,243

Side 1:
Tribes: EWaR
Players:

Side 2:
Tribes: Why?
Players:

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 6
Side 2: 2
Difference: 4

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 24,409
Side 2: 10,613
Difference: 13,796

Shots fired.

 

[DeletedUser]

Keep your grudge against Cody away. What makes others tribes better? ZD, because they recruit worse players. Red, because he has a speckle of a tribe? Maybe EWaR? Because they have the name elite.

Other than that, good PnP. Because it did what it was meant to do. Use pointless judgement to sway the opinions of others. And that's what it did. You guys want to prove we're not the best. Hell, take a shot.

There's no grudge, he just keep giveing theese stupid reply's. Never said ZD was good. I probbably shouldn't say much as i'm new in this world but I've come across the same conclusion on redrum just by that little time (that has to mean something?). around 50% of why looks like noobs is the impression that i've got. And probbaly takeing it to far when I find it equal to a one man tribe that redrum got, or meow witch looks decent enough. Altough, i do know the skill of some of the skilled players in why? in do quite well they are capable to take down most in w5, so i'm no t saying why? is bad. (If it sounded like that)

 

[DeletedUser]

Side 1:

Spoiler: Fail Stats

Tribes: EWaR
Players:

Side 2:
Tribes: Why?
Players: ll

Timeframe: Forever

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 7
Side 2: 6
Difference: 1

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 26,600
Side 2: 21,357
Difference: 5,243

Side 1:
Tribes: EWaR
Players:

Side 2:
Tribes: Why?
Players:

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 6
Side 2: 2
Difference: 4

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 24,409
Side 2: 10,613
Difference: 13,796

Shots fired.

Let's see, picking off players from the edge. Nice job though, I will say. But hey, I'm not the one who asked EWaR to merge, oh wait, that was EWaR's duke wasn't it? Scared of good ole' ZD now.

 

[DeletedUser]

There's no grudge, he just keep giveing theese stupid reply's. Never said ZD was good. I probbably shouldn't say much as i'm new in this world but I've come across the same conclusion on redrum just by that little time. 50% of why or less looks like noobs of the impression that i've got. And probbaly takeing it to far when I find it equel to a one man tribe that redrum got, or meow witch looks decent. Altough, i do know the skill of some of the skilled players in why? in do quite well they are capable to take down most in w5, so i'm not saying why? is bad. (If it sounded like that)

So a 1 man tribe and a small tribe is better than Why? because?

 

[DeletedUser]

Let's see, picking off players from the edge. Nice job though, I will say. But hey, I'm not the one who asked EWaR to merge, oh wait, that was EWaR's duke wasn't it? Scared of good ole' ZD now.

I'm done with you arrogant flamers.
"Safety in numbers, hahah, ZD has safety in numbers!"

Sound familiar? It's your tribe speaking. Your tribe does a lot of speaking in the externals, too, where you have safety in numbers. They only reason why you never realize you've lost as argument is because you have 6 arrogant superjocks going against 1 or 2 kids. I know I am smarter than you, but when theres six people not letting one person speak, it's hard to show.

You are losing to EWaR. Do something about it. Or are you "toooo booreeedd" or "toooooo farrrrrr" or "too busy fighting on the externals"?

Please. Play the game.
We all are, even if the settings are crap.

DEAL WITH IT.