2-TR: [...] they have boasted on the forums for too long
First time I've ever heard someone claiming TR boast on the forums. They barely ever post, let alone boast.
I'll do a rating if you want Stutzy, haven't done one in ages (Though I'm not exactly new)
1 W1N 7/10
Probably my lowest rating of W1N... I guess now I'm not playing I haven't got the constant contact with them (Given they used to be like 5 squares away from me, and I could see them in action)
I like a fair few people in W1N, but let me explain my reasoning.
I didn't approve with the merge with CHE!!! - I was hoping for a war there. However it was a strong move.
I get annoyed with all the hypocritical anti-TR spin. I don't think W1N have much right to complain about mergers given they merged with some of the best of U-F-A, DOA, and the majority of CHE!!!. (Incidently, if I remember correctly, we had been literally about to declare on U-F-A, so we weren't amused that our targets suddenly changed colour, and we ended up in a land grap for K33.
I don't accept the W1N claim that TR haven't ever fought a proper war.
Looking on as a third party with experience of TR, some of the spin and critisms which might be easily swallowed by people who have no experience of either side really get on my nerves, and damage my opinion of W1N, as do the ease at which they switch between bragging about how people aren't seeing W1N fully in action, to saying that they're fighting on all fronts, 'so don't expect too much'.
Also, I have found W1N diplomatically inconsistant, expecting special treatment, while personally, I have found players like Marvin (Who I bordered) rather rude, and obsessive (He once claimed that because I had sent 40HC at a rowayino village next to me in order to kill them off, that he had had to noble a 2k barb because 'I was attacking the row village'. He was then rather rude about the whole thing, and didn't seem to grasp the fact that it wasn't his village, it was bright red, and killing off 40HC was not the same as sending a nuke to one of his villages -.- but that's another story)
Overall though, W1N are a very powerful tribe, and if I was still playing, I would love to be in the midst of the war =]
W1N brag an awful lot - which doesn't endear them to me, but they often have reason to (Though that doesn't mean they should)
2 TR 8/10
I used to be in this tribe. I was extremely impressed, and have to say I was proud to be a member.
I know that some of the more 'classical' members (of which I include myself) have had to leave due to real life commitments, and there were some new members taken in to the south, and in the old SWARM territory, which in order to succeed, need to be integrated into the tribe at least as well as I was.
Many family tribes fall apart because of weak leadership. TR has extremely strong leadership, and is led by extremely credible players.
I sincerely hope that the tribe is still the well oiled machine it was when I left.
It is hard from my position to see how things are going these days. At this point, the stats aren't too bad. W1N appear to be 'w1nning' (excuse the pun, it's been done before I know), but this is all early days, and it certainly isn't the usual 200 - 5 nobles to W1N
Much of my opinion is made up from what I see on these forums, and I'm pretty resistant to a lot of the spin.
To gauge how TR are doing, you need to be in TR.
But I think that TR staying pretty silent and respectful on these forums is only a good thing.
I expect great things from you TR, and wish you all the best. W1N aren't invincible, though they will want you to think they are. Continue to work together effectively, and don't disappoint me.
3 T4H 9/10
When I was in TR, I often did a bit of speculating on the future shape of W1. I have always been pretty accurate (apart from the W1N - CHE!! merge), and I was expecting you to emerge as a SW power. You haven't disappointed me! Well done for getting this far. Keep on munching up *FW* =]
I haven't been in your tribe, and I don't know anyone very well in your tribe, so I haven't got much evidence to back up my rating, but you've gobbled a fair few villages at high speed =]
One of your members moving to W1N will be annoying for TR, as in order to fight back they will have to noble into your territory.
I guess in the end you will need to decide whether to cast your lot with W1N or not. If you stay neutral you'll end up fighting them. But that decision is probably a while away (though I may be wrong =])
4 F.P.B 5/10
Not sure whether you're working at full potential. The EXP crumble looks pretty chaotic.
5 *FW* 4/10
Look to be taking in members as fast as you're getting nobled by T4H
Keep on with the feeding of T4H. I'm sure they appreciate it
6 FIRE 5/10
See #4
7 ORC 9/10
Fought well against W1N/the old DOA
Glad to see that for all of W1Ns anti ORC spin (much of the same spin that they're now using against TR) that they are now 'bigging you up'
You're going to need to probably war W1N again in order to expand. You're allies with TR, and I hope that relationship remains strong.
You show W1N up, given that they need to be at peace with you in order to fight others.
Mucho respecto goes to you guys
8 TR.
See #2
9 T4H-W
See #3, though I prefer T4H to the old wHo, so hope you've changed.
10 Flux 6/10
I don't know much about you. Kudos for you for not being swallowed up by W1N, but thats all I can really say.
11 LRAG 6/10
Well, we booted you out of our Ks way way back in history, and you're on the rim. But you're expanded and learnt lessons from the past. You seem to be doing decentish
12 KA 6/10
I don't really get you guys. Is BH still leading you or did he get bored?
13 IWL 4/10
Working with W1N apparantly. Used to have chrisryan next to me on W3, then someone nobled him ;-). Is he still there? You've spent a lot of your history getting eaten, and turtling up, so my opinion of you is heavily influenced by that. W1N will just snap you up when the time is right anyway...
14 =T4H=
See #3
15 KnK
I like these guys, and hope they have been fully integrated into TR, they're pretty awesome. Shame you joined after I left or I would have said hi. Again, see #2
16 AK
See #12
I'm going to stop here, as I don't know anything about any of the below tribes. Appologies, but I don't want to make 100% uninformed decisions
17 Riffs
18 FREE
19 UDog
20 3Lions
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