G.F Declare On W~A~R

DeletedUser7215

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Side 1:
Tribes: G.F
Side 2:
Tribes: W~A~R, ~SF~, STORM!

Timeframe: Last month

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 185
Side 2: 44
Difference: 141

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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 1,691,084
Side 2: 397,592
Difference: 1,293,492

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DeletedUser

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Enjoy taking those front line villages.. it won't last. ;-)

I seem to remember we said something similar, a very long time ago. I know G.F havent even started an op yet, when they do, that lead will double in view.
 

DeletedUser

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Heres the real stats. Not at all massaged...

Side 1:
Tribes: W~A~R
Side 2:
Tribes: G.F
Timeframe: Last month
Total conquers:
Side 1: 1,784
Side 2: 1,159
Difference: 625
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Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 36
Side 2: 48
Difference: 12
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Points value of total conquers:
Side 1: 14,723,167
Side 2: 8,839,508
Difference: 5,883,659
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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 313,839
Side 2: 438,512
Difference: 124,673
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W~A~R will fair better then TV because W~A~R are alot better/stronger tribe then TV. When our members get attacked they dont go "inactive". :icon_rolleyes:

W~A~R have to jump a continent to get to the front line where G.F are already well dug in. So give us time. G.F are attacking extremly isolated ex-levian villas and are still not getting them half as fast as they should.

G.F may fair better than most against the W~A~R but there is no chance of them ever doubling those already massaged stats. Keep dreaming juke. ;)
 

DeletedUser

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Heres the real stats. Not at all massaged...

Side 1:
Tribes: W~A~R
Side 2:
Tribes: G.F
Timeframe: Last month
Total conquers:
Side 1: 1,784
Side 2: 1,159
Difference: 625
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Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 36
Side 2: 48
Difference: 12
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Points value of total conquers:
Side 1: 14,723,167
Side 2: 8,839,508
Difference: 5,883,659
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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 313,839
Side 2: 438,512
Difference: 124,673
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W~A~R will fair better then TV because W~A~R are alot better/stronger tribe then TV. When our members get attacked they dont go "inactive". :icon_rolleyes:

W~A~R have to jump a continent to get to the front line where G.F are already well dug in. So give us time. G.F are attacking extremly isolated ex-levian villas and are still not getting them half as fast as they should.

G.F may fair better than most against the W~A~R but there is no chance of them ever doubling those already massaged stats. Keep dreaming juke. ;)

Mofo, I hate to burst your bubble, but having seen your tribes attacks, you don't stand a chance against G.F. Your tribe aren't as battle tried as G.F, -TV-, or DOGS.

But I like your optimism, and wish you all the best of luck. You'll definately need it :lol:
 

DeletedUser

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Yet W~A~R have won every war they fought...even against TV. :icon_idea:
I think you once again underestimate those warriors.

G.F's a good tribe and I've much like and respect for them,but this war will prove much more difficult than you seem to assume.

Best of luck to both sides. :icon_wink:
 

DeletedUser

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Mofo, I hate to burst your bubble, but having seen your tribes attacks, you don't stand a chance against G.F. Your tribe aren't as battle tried as G.F, -TV-, or DOGS.

But I like your optimism, and wish you all the best of luck. You'll definately need it :lol:

Right... were not as battle proven as TV... :icon_rolleyes:

Side 1:
Tribes: W~A~R
Side 2:
Tribes: -TV-
Timeframe: Forever
Total conquers:
Side 1: 12,462
Side 2: 12,770
Difference: 308
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Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 308
Side 2: 85
Difference: 223
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Points value of total conquers:
Side 1: 92,081,894
Side 2: 83,492,576
Difference: 8,589,318
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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 2,768,977
Side 2: 727,774
Difference: 2,041,203
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Is there a war TV has positive stats in?

Go find some more tribes to hug juke. Your better at it.
 

DeletedUser

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Yet W~A~R have won every war they fought...even against TV. :icon_idea:
I think you once again underestimate those warriors.

G.F's a good tribe and I've much like and respect for them,but this war will prove much more difficult than you seem to assume.

Best of luck to both sides. :icon_wink:

W~A~R havent won a war against -TV-. There hasn't really been a war yet.

Some stats of all the wars -TV- are fighting.......



Side 1:
Tribes: W~A~R, TWM, G.F, DOGS
Side 2:
Tribes: -TV-

Timeframe: Forever

Total conquers:

Side 1: 35,996
Side 2: 12,783
Difference: 23,213

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Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 1,607
Side 2: 1,220
Difference: 387

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Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 244,996,641
Side 2: 83,594,487
Difference: 161,402,154

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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 14,294,891
Side 2: 10,273,582
Difference: 4,021,309

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Side 1:
Tribes: TWM
Side 2:
Tribes: -TV-

Timeframe: Forever

Total conquers:

Side 1: 2,979
Side 2: 12,783
Difference: 9,804

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Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 81
Side 2: 421
Difference: 340

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Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 18,035,191
Side 2: 83,594,487
Difference: 65,559,296

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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 725,387
Side 2: 3,430,141
Difference: 2,704,754

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Side 1:
Tribes: DOGS
Side 2:
Tribes: -TV-

Timeframe: Forever

Total conquers:

Side 1: 11,958
Side 2: 12,783
Difference: 825

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Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 833
Side 2: 549
Difference: 284

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Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 84,935,214
Side 2: 83,594,487
Difference: 1,340,727

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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 7,488,103
Side 2: 4,740,258
Difference: 2,747,845

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Side 1:
Tribes: G.F
Side 2:
Tribes: -TV-

Timeframe: Forever

Total conquers:

Side 1: 8,584
Side 2: 12,783
Difference: 4,199

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Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 384
Side 2: 165
Difference: 219

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Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 49,866,471
Side 2: 83,594,487
Difference: 33,728,016

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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 3,304,309
Side 2: 1,375,409
Difference: 1,928,900

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Side 1:
Tribes: W~A~R
Side 2:
Tribes: -TV-

Timeframe: Forever

Total conquers:

Side 1: 12,475
Side 2: 12,783
Difference: 308

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Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 309
Side 2: 85
Difference: 224

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Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 92,159,765
Side 2: 83,594,487
Difference: 8,565,278

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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 2,777,092
Side 2: 727,774
Difference: 2,049,318

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And lets not forget............

Side 1:
Tribes: TWM2
Side 2:
Tribes: -TV-

Timeframe: Forever

Total conquers:

Side 1: 1,552
Side 2: 12,783
Difference: 11,231

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Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 33
Side 2: 215
Difference: 182

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Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 7,147,428
Side 2: 83,594,487
Difference: 76,447,059

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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 277,481
Side 2: 1,649,988
Difference: 1,372,507

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Side 1:
Tribes: TA1
Side 2:
Tribes: -TV-

Timeframe: Forever

Total conquers:

Side 1: 636
Side 2: 12,783
Difference: 12,147

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Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 61
Side 2: 433
Difference: 372

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Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 2,474,066
Side 2: 83,594,487
Difference: 81,120,421

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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 456,235
Side 2: 2,802,778
Difference: 2,346,543

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Side 1:
Tribes: DILLI
Side 2:
Tribes: -TV-

Timeframe: Forever

Total conquers:

Side 1: 564
Side 2: 12,783
Difference: 12,219

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Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 0
Side 2: 28
Difference: 28

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Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 1,418,199
Side 2: 83,594,487
Difference: 82,176,288

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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 0
Side 2: 243,074
Difference: 243,074

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And finally, all our enemies, plus our co tribe............

Side 1:
Tribes: D.O.G, W~A~R, DILLI, TA1, TWM2, G.F
Side 2:
Tribes: -TV-, T-V

Timeframe: Forever

Total conquers:

Side 1: 24,803
Side 2: 14,604
Difference: 10,199

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Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 808
Side 2: 1,050
Difference: 242

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Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 159,071,137
Side 2: 95,442,076
Difference: 63,629,061

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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 6,975,074
Side 2: 7,725,294
Difference: 750,220

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Anyone can make stats look good or bad. I won't try and defend the losses we have suffered to some of our enemies. Although I could. I think the full stats for every tribe involved in this war speak for themselves.

If I added our allies stats too, it would look different again.

The point I was making, is W~A~R have not defeated a major tribe, that is battle hardened, not one. DOGS and -TV-, have been fighting a long time, and are battle hardened. G.F has been fighting us a long time, another battle hardened tribe.
Don't believe your sheer size makes you invincible, it doesnt. If DOGS were to turn on you too, and all the other tribes, you would not last long before the inactive fairies hit you harder than they have already.
 
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DeletedUser

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Half of the tribes you have mentioned are so small and pathetic its sad you even have to mention them to find some positive stats.

TV cannot beat a formiable opponent. They have yet to do so. 3 formiable opponents. 3 sets of negative stats. Sad really..

Im sure W~A~R have probaly destroyed more than TV in the long run. We just dont brag about all the really small victories. Never had the need to.


The point I was making, is W~A~R have not defeated a major tribe, that is battle hardened, not one.

Ever here of a little tribe called C~C? Ranked 2nd at the time and ranked 5th W~A~R destroyed them. Caused their leader (a well respected player) to quit and shortly after then disbanded. I believe that is actually the biggest victory in uk2 history? No other tribe has defeated a top3 or even 5? tribe. Except maybe when G.F forced Virtus to merge. Therefore, by your logic, W~A~R are the most battle hardened of all. :icon_rolleyes:


Oh and just because 2 top battle hardened tribes like DOGS and G.F beat on you doesnt give you the title yourself. :\
 
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DeletedUser

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C~C disbanded, but you didnt beat them. Also G.F didnt force us to merge with TEAM. But you believe what you wish.

Simple truth is, we have defeated more tribes than W~A~R. We have been fighting 5 top 20 tribes for months, and we're still here, and still growing.

The only defeat we suffered was when several players were kicked or left. That we are paying for. But the simple reality is this, players who you have never thought in -tv-, are moving closer to you. G.F are handing you a bloody nose. Whether it be ex levian members or not. Don't whine about them, you chose to recruit them, despite them being refugees of one of your own allies. That single action has transformed the political map, and brought G.F and -TV- closer together.

You have no idea of G.F's true fighting ability, I do however. Both G.F and -TV- have great respect for each other as adversaries. We both know the truth of both our abilities, and no amount of pnp can hide the fact that W~A~R are going to suffer a huge defeat. If DOGS chose to reallign with us and G.F, against W~A~R, my feeling is you are finished.

And don't dismiss the idea of DOGS swapping sides, stranger things have been known to happen. Talks we've had with them indicate your alliance is shaky, not a good place to be in my opinion.
 

DeletedUser

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The truth is you are afraid of DOGS and G.F and realize you cant beat them so you are attepmting to hug on them so you wont have to face them. Some people like tribal wars some people like tribal hugs. meh.

Sigh.. seems all the skill, leadership, honor and dedication of TV really did go out the window with the departure of darth and max... :icon_sad:


For the record. I never said we/I doubted G.F's abilities. Just stating that nothing has really happened yet. They are only up 12 conquers and your already jumping all over it as a great victory. Give it time and see what happens. Perhaps G.F will get the better hand of us. They are in a great position to do so. Perhaps not. We will see what the future brings.

DOGS are the best tribe in the north. W~A~R are the best tribe in the south. One day they will eventually fight and it will be epic. However, i think the death of TV will come long before that day. Because i believe DOGS are honorable enough not to turn on their allies to side with their enemy. No matter how much you beg.
 

DeletedUser4320

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DOGS are the best tribe in the north. W~A~R are the best tribe in the south. One day they will eventually fight and it will be epic. However, i think the death of TV will come long before that day. Because i believe DOGS are honorable enough not to turn on their allies to side with their enemy. No matter how much you beg.

Just because W~A~R prefer to stab their allies in the back doesn't mean that terminating an alliance cannot be done in a honorable way as the saying goes.

:)
 

DeletedUser

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Very true Dubby. And their NAP's too. Just a general policy of backstabbing and betrayal me thinks :icon_razz:

Anyways guys, all this poking is done in fun. Let's face it, I personally have had to read stats posted by Warriors members for months now on the Virtus/GF then TV/GF wars - which essentially had nothing to do with them. Smart comments and witty slagging taglines were added, all in favour of GF, and all belittling TV and their lack of skills/abilities.

I have nothing against most of W~A~R, a lot of nice, sound guys. However, their tribal policies are not to my liking and their forum posts for months have ebbed on disrespectful, threatening and just pure "stirring the pot".

Well for as long as GF are winning the battles, I will be here poking, prodding and giggling.

GF for the Win! :lol:
 

DeletedUser

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The truth is you are afraid of DOGS and G.F and realize you cant beat them so you are attepmting to hug on them so you wont have to face them. Some people like tribal wars some people like tribal hugs. meh.

Sigh.. seems all the skill, leadership, honor and dedication of TV really did go out the window with the departure of darth and max... :icon_sad:


For the record. I never said we/I doubted G.F's abilities. Just stating that nothing has really happened yet. They are only up 12 conquers and your already jumping all over it as a great victory. Give it time and see what happens. Perhaps G.F will get the better hand of us. They are in a great position to do so. Perhaps not. We will see what the future brings.

DOGS are the best tribe in the north. W~A~R are the best tribe in the south. One day they will eventually fight and it will be epic. However, i think the death of TV will come long before that day. Because i believe DOGS are honorable enough not to turn on their allies to side with their enemy. No matter how much you beg.


All I can really say to this is :lol::icon_rolleyes::lol:

Honestly, If you think we are hugging thats fine, but might interest you to know, G.F made the first formal contact for diplomacy. Adimttedly we had spoken to a couple of members prior.

As for DOGS, they approached us first, offering us villages, to turn on our allies.

So less of the tribe hugging comments please. -TV- will outlast W~A~R by a long margin.

As for DOGS being the best tribe in the north, thats your personal opinion, and its not shared by us or our allies.

And as for W~A~R being the best in the south, thats not really hard is it, seeing as W~A~R are about 80% of the south. Biggest doesnt mean best.
 

DeletedUser

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I wouldn't call TV huggers,but I do see how you are trying to use PnP to turn things around on W~A~R. Well buddy not gonna happen,W~A~R owns 80% of the south for a reason. Say what you want but show me some negative stats against W~A~R...

Besides GF's short and early lead at the moment you will find none.
Now enough with your opinion on who's more battle hardened,it's your opinion,you stated that's fine but is also in no way a fact.

DOGS and W~A~R till the end!
 

DeletedUser

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I wouldn't call TV huggers,but I do see how you are trying to use PnP to turn things around on W~A~R. Well buddy not gonna happen,W~A~R owns 80% of the south for a reason. Say what you want but show me some negative stats against W~A~R...

Besides GF's short and early lead at the moment you will find none.
Now enough with your opinion on who's more battle hardened,it's your opinion,you stated that's fine but is also in no way a fact.

DOGS and W~A~R till the end!


Indeed, we live in a fare society, where we can air our views. One thing I would point out tho, Virtus never suffered defeat, or any losses of any consequence, until we went to war with G.F. We were confident we'd destroy them in no time, much as you are now. Several months down the line, Virtus merged with TEAM, but the same old virtus players were still fighting G.F. We have fought to a stalemate.

Whether you like it or not, we are more battle hardened than yourselves. That does not mean you arent or are better than us, just that we have more experience of long drawn out wars.

And for those who have never been under an all out op by G.F, it comes as a shock, expect the unexpected always :icon_cool:

P.S, It was nice of Shaun to cancel your alliance with DOGS a few weeks ago. hope you managed to get it back, I'm sure DOGS trust you 100% now :lol:
 
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DeletedUser

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As long as they trust us more than TV Juke I will be more than happy. lololol

I think any doubts that any member of WAR or DOGs have can be appeased by just looking at how much we have achieved in the past with surely WORLD 2s greatest and most successful alliance.

Back slaps all around as the saying goes.

Every single human relationship has difficulties my friend but long may DOGs and WAR remain allies as working as one, this world is jointly ours.... ;)
 

DeletedUser

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As long as they trust us more than TV Juke I will be more than happy. lololol

I think any doubts that any member of WAR or DOGs have can be appeased by just looking at how much we have achieved in the past with surely WORLD 2s greatest and most successful alliance.

Back slaps all around as the saying goes.

Every single human relationship has difficulties my friend but long may DOGs and WAR remain allies as working as one, this world is jointly ours.... ;)


Got to love an optimist, especially given W~A~R's known habit of breaking NAP's and alliances whenever it suits them :lol:

I know many of DOGS members are less than happy, especially after Shaun canceled the alliance, for no other reason it seems, than he felt like it :lol:

Oh and lets not forget, many of their best players have gone to W53, along with Max and Darth, so says my friend there lol.

DOGS are surrounded, they've been fortunate with gifted accounts, very fortunate, but they wont be able to expand much in reality, without going in W~A~R's direction.

The recent changes on this world, have far reaching consequences, many still unfelt as yet.

My money is on W~A~R being gang banged by everyone :lol:
 
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