Is resistance futile?

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An enemy noblement is an enemy noblement, regardless of its activity.

It sucks and we'd all like to sometimes take the biggest players down, however we all box smart some day and pick battles we can win.

Whether this is the case for sparks or not is irrelevant, I see no reason to still question the 36 - 2 war stats? You can dress that up however you want but its still a pretty woeful stat. Especially when you consider those two KTHX noblements are no longer in KTHX hands (one was retaken and another was took by T4H).

Sorry Rob but you're onto a losing argument here....

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Maggie Wallis

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seriously?!!? an inactive red dot that has never been or never would of been a member of KTHX is higher priority than actually nobling a red dot that is part of an active player within KTHX? You know, the tribe they are at war with...

No wonder S.P. don't build rams... :)
 
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Sigh.... At the risk of you fishing for this, I don't agree on targeting in-actives, but what I do agree is if you're dumb enough to have an inactive player then your dumb enough to have his villages took off you. Your now talking about something else, your talking about inactives in general when you started talking about inactive KTHX players.

Don't do your usual Rob and try and get all "excited" again, try and have a debate without coming across as a nub, we all know you can do it.

In the grand scale of a war (and unless your claiming all 36 noblements were inactive) you take as many enemy villages as you can, active and inactive.

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Maggie Wallis

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I see the problem.. you can't follow the simple flow of a conversation...

The point pervie made was "why should sparks attack me when she is in the middle of a war and has higher priorities"...

I merely pointed out that if an inactive red dot that has never or would never be part of "the war" is a bigger priority than someone she has threaten and promised to rim and a higher priority than taking a village from KTHX, whether it be from an active or inactive player.. then really her priorities are incorrect.. unless the great can explain why the red dot in question is such a priority...

At no point have a commented on whether the kTHX villages she has taken were inactive or not.. or whether in the grand scale of things, that matters...

All you've done is call me a nub... now concentrate, check your facts, and answer the question... shouldn't be too hard now should it... though as pervie says, you should really shut up and spend your time sorting out your tribe rather than wasting it on here..

Why your at it.. why don't you explain how this is an effective way to attack an active player within a tribe?

The defender has won
Luck (from attacker's point of view)-14.7%

Attacker: skitchy21390
Origin: Dear Coachs Corner (415|521) K54

Quantity: 0 0 2180 48 424 0 0 0 0
 
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Meh, this conversation is going no-where.

My facts are correct, 36 - 2 KTHX and Resist, its the only stat that matters.

Also nice attempt at taking a single report out of context however I'm pretty sure once again this is the only stat that matters:
Side 1:
Tribes: S.P, P.P
Side 2:
Tribes: win

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers:

Side 1: 7
Side 2: 12
Difference: 5

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Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 1
Side 2: 0
Difference: 1

chart


Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 7,149
Side 2: 48,185
Difference: 41,036

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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 2,398
Side 2: 0
Difference: 2,398

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All the best

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Maggie Wallis

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Ok cool.. so you can't answer either question...

I'm sure it isn't that hard to admit?!!?

Congrates on the noblement by the way... did you use rams for that one?

P.s. 7 noblements for 7.5K points.. I'm pretty sure that's the only stat that matters... impressive..
 
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It doesn't help that you edit your posts 15 times, I hardly know when your finished.

Besides we don't have to explain why we do things in certain ways do we?

Ta ta for now

Cald
 

DeletedUser8105

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Come'on,

Bella got rimmed whilst in Kthx or are we forgetting about that too

Sorry,but I had no opportunity to defend because I had problems with the internet connection and other RL issues plus considering the fact that I played solo.
My account was equivalent to >5k points barbarian villages.
Can not call it something else,except for to capture of "pseudo" enemy villages.
 

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Lol... really make an effort.. sorry if my post was too long and too full of questions for the great and mighty pervie to answer.. after all I'm sure your dominance of .net keeps you busy... please accept my apologies for wasting your time and expecting you to know what your talking about when posting...

After all, why put any effort in to actually trying to find out what is or isn't being done when you can just critise people based on... err.. oh yeah.. nope sorry... no idea what's it based on...

As I'm a nice guy really, yeah it's true, my mum told me.... I'll break it down for you... one question at a time...

Please explain as i'm too noobish to understand how sparks's last noblement can be described as "prioritising targets within a war"...

I'll even post the link for you again: http://www.twstats.co.uk/uk9/index.php?page=player&mode=conquers&id=415768

Thanks in advance..



No I'm afraid if you cannot make an effort to condense the your rambling wall into a few condensed summation points, I should not have to reciprocate by going through that eye sore. Nothing to do with whether I think you're a nobody from a third class backwater server though, I admit to having no such opinion. Its because quite frankly you need to learn how to write properly.

I will answer the question you ask in this post though.

To start with I really don't know who you are or give a damn who you are in this or any other server.
Secondly, everything I base my comments on I base it off this thread and everything posted on it.
Thirdly, in context of the above line, I understand that sparky is in a war, and that you are not in the tribe sparky is warring. Logic dictates that any targets taken from the tribe she is warring, whether you come up here and claim they are inactive or not, takes precedence over a non war target unless that non war target is of strategic value or an immediate threat, and from this thread you are neither.

Therefore - and I'm not certain where you got the idea I criticized you, I actually criticized KTHX, but I will shortly be criticizing you - regardless of how loud and trollish your posts are on PnP, regardless of how ugly your lack of writing structure, regardless of generally annoying you are, Sparky simply got better things to do that teach you a lesson in humility. So yeah those little inactive KTHX players are of a more important priority than you are. Live with it.

You're probably not too noobish to understand it, just too pig headed to conceive anything that that doesn't align with your preconceived notions (yeah lose the pot-kettle jokes, the difference with me is I'm usually right and admit being wrong in a heartbeat when convinced such).

There's your question answered, now maybe if you ask a different question next time - maybe - I'll deign to answer it. If you're too thick to understand what I just said and effectively ask the same question again, I'll probably just blow you off as another .co.uk player stuck too far in the sand to learn anything.
 

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Stop me when i repeat myself... but please just ask the question I asked, not a random different one to make yourself look better...

Now concentrate... look at the list of sparks noblements.. then look at the last village nobled... then when you realise why your wrong..

Answer the question asked.. how can nobling an inactive red dot that has never been or never would of been part of the "war" between RESIST and KTHX be considered as "prioritising targets"? or you could just keep throwing around insults...

Perhaps she just wanted another O village and was happy to wait the 33 days it takes to build a nuke with maxed rax and stables...

See, it's not a hard question.. even I could answer it and I'm a little boy noob...

Ahh fudge it.. why bother... I hope you and your ego lives happily ever after..

\wanders back into retirement shacking his head...
 

DeletedUser117

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Yes Mancunia, I only eat inactives :icon_rolleyes:
Next time try actually checking a map before you start crying about how I am unfair about not hitting you. As previously said, you are not worth my time, you arent in Kthx and personally I cba, you are probably quitting in a few weeks so why should I bother. Now stop derailing a thread that you are not personally involved in. Go play pet somewhere else.
 

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If you've actually conned yourself into believing that I've insulted you, then you're reading and comprehension skills are just as good as your writing skills. When I start really insulting people, emergency mod team meetings are called and new forms of infractions are invented.

I answered your question exactly as you asked it and to the point that you asked it. You don't like the answer and you don't have an answer for the answer so rather than critically analyze the mistakes you made when formulating the question (which was a dumb one) you'd rather insist that it hasn't been addressed (which it has).

Its basically the sort of head in the sand thinking thats left .co.uk underdeveloped and competition-less to the point where one tribe takes a huge lead in every server and somehow manages to hang on to it despite not being very good themselves - unless of course someone like Sparks comes along and exposes them for what they are.
 

DeletedUser9748

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Ok I believe I have seen enough and I want to interfere in one or two things. First of all

Monty.Python: I never refused that KTHX helped me grow and build up my ranks. But the reason I am still here is because I wanted to and decided not to give up in a dead inactive world like everyone else in the tribe did. So don't just mention that "if ti was for KTHX Ballerond and Sparkles won't be here". I accept your contribution to a certain point.

Pervie:
unless of course someone like Sparks comes along and exposes them for what they are.
. I don't think Sparks exposed anything. KTHX started as a big pre-made tribe, they had no competition and so most of them got bored and decided to leave. Sparkles was at KTHX, grew and took many juicy villages (some of thme from internalling) and later decided to turn against them after she knew of course who were inactives and not. If that's called exposure, then everyone here deserves a title like that hanging in his bedroom.
 

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Errrr . . . turned on a tribe that was large and had a lead at rank 1 but inactive and lay bare their inactivity by nobling those inactive accounts that somehow the tribe did not do anything about (presumably to keep them around for points) ?
That sounds like an exposition to me.

I'm not going on about that being some of hard task to do. But basically speaking every world in this server seems to have a premade like KTHX take the lead at rank 1 and face no competition (as you say).
The reason why they face no competition is because the rest of the tribes do not pick on them. Presumably because they expect they cannot win.

And unless the myth of name packed premades (packed by .uk standards, they're usually not all that) being invincible breaks, I don't think there is a good likelyhood of fostering the kind of competition everyone says is lacking.
By exposing how truly fragile KTHX was I do believe sparks has gone some way to killing that myth. More needs to be done in other worlds but sure you can see my point. Everybody here is telling me that KTHX was very inactive and very weak at the time sparks made her move, but I don't really think the rest of the server unrelated to the situation knew that. Thats what sparks exposed and I don't think everyone has one of hanging in their bedrooms..

I have no problems with premades with a lot of (comparatively) decent players in them. I just dislike it when the server buckles without going after them and they get away with their inactivity and incompetence - oftentimes by merging before these weaknesses are revealed (and bigging up how great they were before the merge).
 
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DeletedUser9701

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Sorry,but I had no opportunity to defend because I had problems with the internet connection and other RL issues plus considering the fact that I played solo.
My account was equivalent to >5k points barbarian villages.
Can not call it something else,except for to capture of "pseudo" enemy villages.



Lost track of how many times people claim that after getting owned. The simplicity of it is that you are a point whore!
You over extend yourself trying to noble to many villages without enough troops to defend them.
When incoming start you claim RL issues and then internet problems. Its a .5 speed world The top 3 accounts are all solo.

The fact with the exception of 2-3 players in kthx who joined from bedlam nobody really defended anything or made any attempt.

When our war is with Kthx and that was one of the main reasons for the creation of RESIST, we cant be held responsible for the lack of competition that kthx has put up. You only have yourself to blame for that.
 

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Pervie: . I don't think Sparks exposed anything. KTHX started as a big pre-made tribe, they had no competition and so most of them got bored and decided to leave. Sparkles was at KTHX, grew and took many juicy villages (some of thme from internalling) and later decided to turn against them after she knew of course who were inactives and not. If that's called exposure, then everyone here deserves a title like that hanging in his bedroom.

No I didnt expose anything, remember there was some sort of gank planned on Kthx, according to previous posts :icon_rolleyes: Yes I am an internal muncher, I took two when my new co's joined my account and 3 that happen to be right next to me.
I turned against Kthx? Yes Kthx and I were so friendly to each other, I still remember the skype discussions with Wardy and Cory, trying to tell me not to post derogatory comments on Kthx. . . .

The fact remains that most ppl do not remember the main reason I started Kthx was to even the world up, as I was sick of Kthx constantly rabbiting on about win settings.
 

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All this talk of exposing has me in an agitated stated....
 

DeletedUser

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Errrr . . . turned on a tribe that was large and had a lead at rank 1 but inactive and lay bare their inactivity by nobling those inactive accounts that somehow the tribe did not do anything about (presumably to keep them around for points) ?
That sounds like an exposition to me.

I'm not going on about that being some of hard task to do. But basically speaking every world in this server seems to have a premade like KTHX take the lead at rank 1 and face no competition (as you say).
The reason why they face no competition is because the rest of the tribes do not pick on them. Presumably because they expect they cannot win.

And unless the myth of name packed premades (packed by .uk standards, they're usually not all that) being invincible breaks, I don't think there is a good likelyhood of fostering the kind of competition everyone says is lacking.
By exposing how truly fragile KTHX was I do believe sparks has gone some way to killing that myth. More needs to be done in other worlds but sure you can see my point. Everybody here is telling me that KTHX was very inactive and very weak at the time sparks made her move, but I don't really think the rest of the server unrelated to the situation knew that. Thats what sparks exposed and I don't think everyone has one of hanging in their bedrooms..

I have no problems with premades with a lot of (comparatively) decent players in them. I just dislike it when the server buckles without going after them and they get away with their inactivity and incompetence - oftentimes by merging before these weaknesses are revealed (and bigging up how great they were before the merge).

We had tribes take us on from the start, Ruffus's tribe, and Outlaw (led by Deb/clyde if I remember right?). There's a few reasons to why Kthx failed. Over half the players, (qrasticus, detlef, garg, luke, tim, matt avy...the list is long) quit before 5 villages.

Yes, the tribe was fairly inactive at the moment Sparks pulled her move. We had 3-4 accounts being sat which were "supposed" to come back. But still, we had a solid active core of players. Sparks pulled her move, took most of the active players and then the active left, left the tribe.

Part of it is my fault. I severely dropped time logging in, or even paying attention. BT was given a load he wasn't ready for.

Basically, your opinion of KTHX is very one-sided. Sparks disliked the merge, and yet didn't confront me. Sparks consistently blames "lowering the winning conditions", which I never stated nor supported (at least for the time being). The fact remains that most of KTHX's players were here (and still are on UK9) for personal gain and "fun". I've played that way before. But on UK9 I played to win, not to cater to the world, not to have "fun" (winning is fun to me, however boring it may be at times).
 

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We had tribes take us on from the start, Ruffus's tribe, and Outlaw (led by Deb/clyde if I remember right?). There's a few reasons to why Kthx failed. Over half the players, (qrasticus, detlef, garg, luke, tim, matt avy...the list is long) quit before 5 villages.

This is the fault of whoever did recruitment for the tribe. If over half the tribe quits before 5 villages, then the tribal leadership has majority messed up by having a huge proportion of the memberlist as early game specialists. Those names, garg, qrast, detlef, etc. They are not (in my knowledge) the guys known for their longevity. If your plan is:

But on UK9 I played to win, not to cater to the world, not to have "fun" (winning is fun to me, however boring it may be at times).

They why the hell wouldn't you bring along a much stronger proportion of long term players focused on seeing the server out ? Winning a world doesn't necessarily need the tribe be very good but it does demand a certain level of longevity, you're not going to meet those winning conditions before 5 villages. So if your objective is to win Uk9, then why would the leadership recruit a tribe where half the people are start up specialists who quit before 5 villages ? (Mind you the early game affectations of these guys aren't a secret to anybody).
Who was recruiting for the premade ?

Yes, the tribe was fairly inactive at the moment Sparks pulled her move. We had 3-4 accounts being sat which were "supposed" to come back. But still, we had a solid active core of players. Sparks pulled her move, took most of the active players and then the active left, left the tribe.

Part of it is my fault. I severely dropped time logging in, or even paying attention. BT was given a load he wasn't ready for.

See if (in your own words), most of the active players chose to leave with spark, what that shows that they agree with sparks, that sparks was right. Quite frankly if the leadership of KTHX cannot retain the loyalty of most of its active players (regardless of Sparks individually) then the leaderships of KTHX must have been making some very major mistakes. Otherwise why would most of their active players leave the tribe and attack their old tribe ?

And on a different level, if your plan is to win Uk9, then why would you stop paying attention or logging in ? Thats not how you win worlds. And quite frankly why would you expect Sparks and the people who left with her to have any faith in in the tribe if you as the leader stop paying attention to the server?


Basically, your opinion of KTHX is very one-sided. Sparks disliked the merge, and yet didn't confront me. Sparks consistently blames "lowering the winning conditions", which I never stated nor supported (at least for the time being). The fact remains that most of KTHX's players were here (and still are on UK9) for personal gain and "fun". I've played that way before.

I've said from the beginning:

Pervie said:
I'm biased as hell.
So my opinion is very obviously one sided. That doesn't mean the opinion isn't dead on accurate. Admittedly my reasons for airing criticism of KTHX as a poor tribe is because I'm friends with sparks, but doesn't mean those criticisms are not valid.
Infact, you have come here and supported that by telling us how half the tribe went inactive after early game, and how the leadership didn't give a damn and how the most of the active members had more faith in a renegade like sparks who didn't like the tribe from the beginning than they did in the tribe itself.

You know what you just described ? A very poor tribe.
 
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